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Oh, hey, fella. Oh, what's up?

What's going on, man? Good. Good. It's

good to see you. Good to be back. Yeah,

brother. I I've had a um a few

interesting days just chilling and

relaxing and trying to stay off the

news, man. And then this morning,

someone sent me uh a video of uh Bridget

Mcronone, Mcronone's wife, face

slapping him. Yeah, that's wild, dude.

My favorite is the look into the camera

once he realizes I got caught. Yeah.

Yeah. He's like, "Oh." And he It's like

It's very You could put like the curb

your enthusiasm theme song right after

that. Imagine what goes on behind closed

doors if someone's slapping you on

a private jet. Like what is that? Yeah,

that's a weird relationship, man. Well,

she was his teacher. If it was a she Oh,

yeah. There's a whole like there's a

whole like Yeah, there's a whole like

thing, bro. Candace Owens did like five

hours on it. That's a little bit crazy.

Well, yeah. She's the wrong dog to go

after you. Like, if you're trying to

break into a house, that's the wrong

guard dog, right? Like she she gets on

something, she's like a pitbull. No.

Yeah, she really breaks down. I had a

friend once show me her breakdown of

like a Taylor Swift situation cuz I

didn't know Candace talks about like

that sort of stuff as well. And I was

like, "Oh, this is like a really indepth

breakdown of what's going on with Taylor

Swift. That's crazy." Oh, she did the

whole Justin Baldoni Blake Lively thing

and I'm eating popcorn.

No, but the Bridget Mcronone one

is the craziest because I think she's

right. I don't mean obviously I don't

know but at the end of the day the first

thing you have to say is what kind of a

40year-old dates a 14y old right that's

crazy that's the thing even if it's a

woman and a man but first of all Kurt

Masser says it's 14 I think the internet

says it's 15 m goes but it's definitely

14 was younger than that did you see me

get cornered by him yesterday

bro he just hit me with like seven

different conspiracies in a row I'm

like, "Guys, guys, I'm getting

cornered." It's so hard to follow him

all the time when you're just like,

"Okay." I felt like a woman trapped at

like an office party and the guy who's

hitting on them like won't leave him

alone. They can't escape. Yeah. Have you

ever seen that meme of that like girl at

the party and a guy's just talking at

him?

Yeah. It's always like, you know,

something about flat earth or something.

But yeah, no, it's I saw that and I was

like, that's crazy that this happened

this morning. Crazy. But the but the

facts of the situation 40 and let's say

15. Let's give them the benefit of the

doubt. 15 is I have a 15-year-old.

They're little kids essentially. You

know, they're like three years away from

being an adult. Three whole years. Well,

you you know what's you know what's

interesting is that like I I listen to a

lot of true crime and they'll say that

like pedophiles and stuff will put

themselves in situations where they can

abuse and that's I think that's why

there's a lot of Nickelodeon Nickelodeon

thing. It's like the Jimmy Savile thing

in England. That's crazy. The craz

I was trying to explain to someone this

week. I was like imagine if Mr. Rogers

was the biggest pedophile that ever

existed but also looked like one. Yeah,

that's what's crazy. Like Mr. Rogers

looks like a sweet guy. You know what I

mean? Like back in the day, like if a

guy like Mr. Rogers was teaching kids,

you wouldn't even get creeped out. It's

like, oh, he's just a sweet guy. There's

sweet people out there. But Jimmy Savo

looks like a monster. He looked like a

monster. Like didn't look like a real

person. He looked like what was that

movie? There was that movie that

was based on a book. Oh my god. Uh

Johnny Depp was in it.

Um, the guy from How I Met Your Mother

was in it. I'm This is not ringing any

bells for me. It's a really weird book

that's like half fantastic, half

realistic, sort of almost Harry

Potterish. The Secret Window. That's it.

Okay, let me see what it looks like. Uh,

based on a Stephen King thing. No,

that's not it. Okay. No, no, no, no, no,

no. It was like a recent Is it

like almost Harry Potterish? Is it

Magical Beast? That that movie? That's

it. Oh, that's it. Yeah, it's a magical

beast. Yeah. Yeah, he looks like an evil

person in Magical Beasts, right? Right.

Like a bad wizard. He definitely looks

like a bad wizard. He doesn't look like

a real human. But I wonder too if like

pull up a picture of Jimmy Savile. Just

look at that guy. I think it's it might

be so hard to look past like everything

that he's done. Yeah. For us to not see

the monster like it must have been like,

"Oh, cuz No, no, no. That's a monster.

That's a monster. That's a monster.

That's a monster. No matter what, that's

a monster.

That's a monster with the glasses.

There's something about his eyes.

Obviously, we know too much, right? But

look at this shirt open. No, no, no. You

know, like no t-shirt underneath it.

Chest hair. something around his

neck. I guess a tie just around his

neck. He's a creeper. Yeah. But at the

time they were like, "Oh, he's just a

British eccentric guy. That's the We

British are known for our weird people."

God. Yeah. 50 years just God. And died

and no one ever caught him. No one ever

caught him. BBC covered it up.

Crazy. Just let him get away. Used to

hang out at the hospitals that he would

Oh, well that's the Sanduski thing, too.

Mhm. Sanduski think same thing. Like

everybody knew about it. Oh, dude.

Everyone knew about it. But they were

winning. So like, dude, we win

championships. I did think that's the

devil. That's if the devil's a real

thing, that's where the devil lives.

It's very funny to me, at least full of,

you know, that they exposed Sandusky

after they went seven and six. They were

like they were they were winning for so

long and then they were like seven and

six. Uhuh. Is that really what happened?

It was the same. They went they had a

horrible year and then the next year

Sanduski the Sanduski thing came out.

They needed to make changes. He wasn't

doing his job. I think he had already

retired at that point, too. Just crazy.

Oh, that's even Yeah, that's when it's

over cuz you're not valuable anymore,

right?

You got Biden, that You

got a Pelosi that right

into the rocks. You know, like Diane

Feinstein in a wheelchair being told by

her operatives who to vote for, right?

That's what you got to do if you're

investigating. Drive that into the

rocks. Cuz if you get out, then they

start investigating you like, whoa.

Stay active.

Yeah. You got to keep you got to keep

con alive. Keep these people fed because

they will feed you to the wolves. Mhm.

Right. If you're a corrupt politician,

you got to stay in office. You can't

retire. If you retire, you're open game

cuz now you're Are you on a podcast

retired talking Let's get them.

They start auditing you and they're

everyone's got some shady. They

all They made way too much money, dude.

There's no way. There's no way it's not

shady when you're worth 200 million and

you make 170 grand a year. That's crazy,

right? And then you have to stay. You

have to. You got to ride it into the

rocks. Also, there's something about

that power that you don't want to give

up on. That's 100%. Some like weird

Darth like the Emperor Palpatine. They

all look like Emperor Palpatine. Every

politician looks like Emperor Palpatine

when they're old. It's crazy.

The weight of it all weighing on you.

You know what I'm saying? Like you have

to know that you're like, "Man, I'm like

at a certain point I'm over so

many people. It's got to weigh on your

soul." Hopefully, bro, you

age. I think the best people age the

hardest,

you know? I think Obama like re was

probably like a very idealistic young

man who really wanted to change the

world. Yeah. And that dude aged more

than anybody. Well, in 2000, you know

what I mean? Yeah. Oh,

yeah. Trump. Trump. Trump just

This is something that uh he just

brushed that off his shoulders like

it was nothing. This is something that

Dererick said to me in like 2018 once we

were talking about he's like I don't

know cuz he's not a big politics guy but

it's like I I don't know if I trust

Trump. His hair is not getting gray.

What kind of politician doesn't get gray

hairs?

Well, the hair itself he makes fun of

his own hair. He He was on stage talking

about his comb over. Yeah, he's funny.

He does stand up. He's doing standup

regardless of what you think about him.

foreign policy, economics, regardless,

the guy is doing standup work. Well,

that's why none of them can with

him because he can go on a podcast easy

because he does these stadiums where he

just goes out and starts talking

He does Biden impressions. He does Biden

wander around the room and he doesn't

know where he is. He's funny, man. Okay.

And the problem is he does it all the

time. So, he's got an act. He's

basically like a comic. Mhm. Like in a

lot of ways that's the problem is like

these other people are they have canned

speeches that are written by a bunch of

people that have this like really

wellworded, you know, explanation of

what's wrong with the world, what's

wrong with the country and what they're

going to do. But it's not them. It's not

them. That's why they all fall apart

when they're talking and you know they

just don't have any idea what the

question's going to be. That's why they

had to be protected. All of them have to

be protected from themselves, right?

Because when confronted by like some

basic facts about the corruption

of the world, they don't know what to

say and they they crumble and Trump just

starts talking He just starts

talking Oh, they're all corrupt.

He just starts going into it and talking

about crooked Hillary and this and that

and they said this and they said that.

Yeah. I It's just the him saying what's

on his mind regardless of whether or not

you know people like fact check him or

whatever. I think people are just used

to that now. Like that's how they

consume media now is like I need the

real person to talk to me. Yes. It's

also like they're like, "Oh, he's a

crazy person." Like, yeah, that's the

only kind of person that would survive

what you try to do to him, right? That's

the only kind of guy that gets through.

Like, you want a perfect person? A

perfect person morally falls apart by

the time they've been indicted and they

have 34 counts, felony counts. Like your

your whole body is just destroyed by the

stress of you possibly going to jail for

the rest of your life. You have to be a

insane person to ride that out

and not look like anything even

happened. Then you get shot. You you get

up after you got shot. You're

bleeding from your ear and you go fight

fight. You got to be a crazy person to

get through these. He's a nightmare for

anybody that's trying to rig a system.

Like that guy's the nightmare. He's the

final boss of you, you know. Yeah.

And also to want like a good guy to be

your president is kind of like a good

guy is your neighbor. Like there's

nothing. Well, it would be nice if we

could get a good guy. I don't think they

would want that job. No, they wouldn't

want that job. They would want that job.

But it's an awful job. I don't think

he's a bad guy. I think he's just I

think he's like a lot of people that

just want success. They they want a

certain kind of success and and also

they want a certain kind of success

publicly. They want everybody to know

that they're successful. Like that's a

like hyper competitive person that's

locked into a very specific kind of game

is the game of look at all the I

got. Look at all the power I have. Look

at all the I got. And they're all

playing that game. They're just playing

that game sneaky. They're playing that

game talking about the importance of

addressing climate change and you know

all all sorts of weird they're

talking about but they're all playing

the same goddamn game. They're in a

legacy game. They want to see how long

can my name last post me dying. Like

that's a type of person, bro. It's what

happens with cults. It's what happens

with everything. There's always one

maniacal person that just wants to

control everything. M everything. That's

why CEOs backstab each other and try to

get each other removed and you hear

about that like internal coups at

companies. Everybody's always like,

"Fuck you. I'm the man. How could he be

the man when I'm the man?" And they just

want they ruin each other, man.

Yeah. I feel like that's why Dick Cheney

was so effective. He's like, "I'll just

be number two." Bro, he was straight

Satan. He was in the Bible. That guy was

in the Bible. He didn't have a pulse at

one at one point in time. No,

legitimately an artificial heart, no

pulse, and responsible for who knows how

many deaths. Oh, countless. Who knows? A

whole 20 year war that we had no

business being in. Not only that, you

want to talk about like transparent.

This was all transparent before the

internet. But imagine it was kind of the

internet was around, right? But not the

same. The internet in 2001, there was no

social media. It was a different kind of

internet. But this guy was they were

getting his former company was getting

no bid contracts for billions of dollars

to fix that we blew up in a war

that was his idea. That's a pretty if

from the outside point of view, if you

have the power to make money that way,

what a genius evil thing to do. So

profitable. I know he might just

billions of dollars enough that he

didn't need a heart anymore. What do you

like? How do you combat that with the

idea also in place that capitalism is

way better than communism, which I think

we all agree. So, how do you combat

that? I don't I think I'm maybe a little

more cynical than most people cuz I I

just the way I look at it now is like I

don't think you can cuz I think whatever

system that you end up putting in place

regardless there are the halves and the

have nots. Right. Right. So it's like

maybe we can combat this and we can curb

maybe corruption in this manner, but

corruption will always find the way,

right? But is there a way to minimize

it? Is there a way to make it less

available? Like it seems like I'm not

I'm just guessing. I've never been a

congressman. I never I never been a

congressman. I'm just guessing. But my

friend Tulsi was a congresswoman for

eight years, right?

and her experiences like in there are

they're they're quite disturbing

because without speaking out of turn

what they what essentially the idea that

I'm getting and they're not just talking

to her talking to Federman talking to

multiple people right is a lot of these

people they're they go in with good

intentions and then they encounter a

system that is just rigged with grifters

like the whole system you're in a

grifting system you're like oh jeez

Jesus Christ. So, it's all about

lobbyists and it's all about money. And

then people start hedging their their

decisions of what they're going to talk

about or discuss or go be against

because they're going to run for

reelection, which they're always doing.

They're always in a constant cycle of

generating more donor money and running

for reelection and making everybody

happy. I think I think you at least for

like you see that with like AOC someone

who you know when she was coming up it

was like a whole anti-system sort of

Democrat and then 2020 endorses Biden.

So it's like eventually they get you to

play ball. Well, it's like who would she

endorse if she didn't endorse Biden?

Like this is the argument that Bernie

Sanders made on on Flagrant. He was

essentially saying to uh Akash and

Andrew, he was saying what my choice was

either uh help Donald Trump or support

the Democratic party even though they

him over. And so his his choice

he made the choice to support Hillary.

Well, I I mean I get it from Bernie's

perspective, but if like in my mind, if

I'm like I don't and then this is me not

knowing anything about how Congress

works, but it's like if I'm supposed to

be the next young like I'm the change of

the Democratic party, I think the the

power move is to not endorse anybody

there if I'm in like an AOC position of

just like I think the system is a little

more locked down than we'd like to

think. Right. Right. Well, clearly it

is. Right. Because here's a good

example. They were going to release the

Epstein files day one. Right. Okay. What

happened? What happened? What happened?

If that's what you wanted to do before

you got the job and then you got the job

and day one you couldn't do it. Okay.

So, what are we saying? Are we saying

that this is this is more complicated?

It's probably a lot more complicated.

There's probably a web. And then there's

also people for decades and decades been

developing relationships and working

inside these and that's the real

government. That's our real government.

That's our real government. These people

realize that once they get into

Congress, they realize that when they

become a senator, they realize that

like, okay, this is not the real

government. And if you with the

real government, they'll take your ass.

Yeah, they'll they'll shoot you or

they'll try. They did everything to

Trump. They did everything. They did

indictments. They did public shame. They

did they took shots at them. But also

with the Epstein thing, it's probably

like just way too many people are on

that list for a government to be even

any sort of functional. Look at the two

of them. It's a hostage video, dog.

Dude, he looks so scared to be there

right now. That's a hostage video.

That's That's Cash right now being like,

"Don't say the wrong name or I'm dead."

Yeah, that's that's a hostage video,

son. Yeah, there's there's no winning in

that cuz there's no Cuz it's like that's

Epstein is across the aisle. That's

everybody. The thing about them saying

that I've seen the file, he definitely

killed himself. Well, what could be in

the file? Let's let's strongman this.

What could be in the file that would

convince you that the autopsy that was

done independently by Dr. Michael Baden,

who's that famous HBO autopsy guy? Do

you know that guy? No. You ever see that

show? HBO's Autopsy? No, I've never seen

that. Great show from a while back. But

the show was all about how they caught

murderers who did a lot of crazy

and just just insane things that some

people did. One guy, his wife died and

he kept her body in his house and he

kept buying like cases and cases of

perfume and he was covering her decaying

body with perfume to stop the odor and

he inserted some sort of a rubber fake

vagina into the corpse.

Bro. Yeah. What a what a guy, bro. when

they describe so this guy anyway he's

he's got a famous show that was on HBO

that was on for a long time like many

seasons all these insane murder cases

like how they caught these people so

he's like an expert at detecting the

difference between accidental death

murder and he looked at the autopsy he

looked at what had happened to Epstein's

body said this is indicative of someone

being strangled to death these kind of

breaks in the bones on the neck this is

not like what happens when you hang

yourself and he was like the mark is

also in the wrong place. It's low on the

neck whereas if someone strangles

themselves the weight of their body

which is what's killing them it all goes

up to like the top of your chin. Mhm.

He's like none of these are these

injuries are injuries that are

consistent with someone who was

strangled. So what could be in if they

don't have a video? So if they say the

cameras were down. Okay. So there's no

video. All right. So, what do you have

that makes you think that he 100%

committed suicide? And how do you let

the guy who is in one of the most

highprofile cases of sex trafficking in

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Toas point your toes west. How? Why is

Galain still alive? If if Jeff If

Epstein knows all these things, there's

no way Galain doesn't know them as well.

She's She's like there. She's there the

whole time. I feel like she knows

everything that he knows. Well, she's in

jail where they get to do yoga. Yeah.

So, she got a sweet deal.

Well, she's she is alive though, which

is kind of crazy. Like, you got to

wonder like if they killed him because

they couldn't trust him allegedly,

right? Let's just say maybe let's give

Cash and Dan the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe there's something in that file

that shows that. What would convince

you?

What could be in the file that would

convince you? I mean, it would have to

be active. It have it would have to be

active

politicians,

presidents, billionaires. Like, it's got

to be like that level of

like I mean, the the prince was

there. Did you ever see what Epstein's

cellmate looked like? No. Bro, you ready

for this? His cellmate is this giant

Italian guy who was a cop who was a

dirty cop and I think was in there for

murder. I think it was like a bad drug

deal or some Let's find the

details in this. But when you see what

this guy looked like, you're like, "Are

you kidding me? He looks like

like The Rock, right? Guy's giant.

And this is the cellmate. This mur you

put a murderer in with the guy who's the

most highprofile witness and defendant

in history dealing with a sex slave

operation for elites and you left him in

there with a giant murderer, right? And

there should be a guard around him at

all times, but they Yeah, they knew they

were going to liquidate him like almost

immediately. Did you get an image of

him, Jamie? I was I was digging through

details of what he did that I hadn't

remember. I don't remember what the cop

did. Yeah, he had four life sentences.

Jesus Christ. Wait, but let's show the

picture of him. The picture is insane.

When you see what he looks like, you're

like, "This guy looks like a a

heavyweight MMA fighter." Right. They

were just waiting for him to die, bro.

He literally looks like a gorilla. Look

at him. Far right picture. That one.

Yeah. Look at the size of this guy.

Imagine. Oh, someone got strangled to

death and this guy's the cellmate.

Nothing to see here, folks. Look at the

size of this guy. Ex Westchester

cop gets four life terms in prison for

quadruple homicide. So he's already in

jail for four life sentences. All you

have to do is give him tuna fish. You

get tuna from the commissary. Just kill

this guy. Yeah. Like what are you going

to get? We're going to get you hookers

every month. Bring a hooker. What are

you going to get? Damn. I mean I'm not

saying that that's that happened, but

I'm saying if a guy is in jail for four

life sentences, like that would be a

good guy to hire. One of them is

strangling someone to death with a zip

tie. Oh Jesus. Good. He's good at it.

Jesus Christ. He strangled someone to

death with a zip tie. Tortured him. What

is his name? Martin.

Tertagleion. Tartaglei. He's like that's

like a character in a bad novel. A

strong man that though he wasn't

technically his cellmate at the time of

the death. He was moved. Hey, they moved

me. Don't worry about it. I wasn't even

there, bro. I wasn't even there. I was

just two cells down and my door was

locked for sure. Well, I mean, you can't

tell cuz the video is gone, but I'm I'm

I'm stuck there. If they have video, I

mean, please show it so I can prove my

innocence, you know. Meanwhile, now he's

got sandwiches. Jimmy John's

gets delivered to prison.

He's he's eating great extra yard time.

He's got a laptop in his room.

Like, what's going on? You know, you

remember in Good Fellas where they had

like their own special prison.

Apparently that that was real. They used

to really have it set up like that. That

makes sense. where like mob guys would

pay people off. So when they went to

prison, they had like a big prison cell

and they would cook in there and they

would do a bunch of Like for real,

they just had to stay there and hang out

with each other. Yeah, dude. It's so

It's so great. Corruption is always

corruption, huh? Corruption is always

corruption. There's no way around it.

It's just a part of our reality. It's

always corruption. I was reading about

this uh famous Mexican singer who was

supposed to be playing in Dallas. Um he

had a 50,000 seat place. He was doing

the place where like the Cowboys play

and they cancelled his visa.

Really? Yeah. Because he he sings those

narco songs.

Yeah. And one of which are apparently

like it's gangster rap, right? It's the

Mexican version of gangster rap. But

gangster rap is fine. Yeah. Yeah. It's

like gangster.

Weird, right? Yeah. A little weird.

That's truly the reason just cuz he sang

the narco song. Well, he did and he had

an image of one of the guys at his

concert while he was like singing the

song. There's an image of one of the uh

one of the head guys. Yeah. Well, I

think to sing one of those narco songs,

you need to get it like approved by the

guy. Yeah. So it's like at the part of

the whole thing, but it's like so he had

an image of the guy like in homage to

him while he sang the song and they're

like that's where we draw the line.

Could have been a different guy. What do

you mean? Similar situation singer in a

different band had the problem looking

at the article now. I thought it said

him. It's saying this Alvarez is the guy

that you're talking about for Dallas and

then it said earlier this year visas

revoked for this band. So why did

Alvarez But didn't Alvarez also have

something similar? I I just I'm just

saying this what the article. Does

anything else say in the article

describing exactly? Which article is

this from? This is from USA Today. Yeah.

Yeah. Is there anything that says what

why Alvarez was denied? Yeah. So, okay.

So, maybe I got it wrong. So, it's

another guy did that and so was he

denied as well. Yeah. Yeah. A bunch.

It's this article is saying multiple

people have these sing the singers from

these types of bands. Oh, I see. I see.

I see. So, they're revoking a lot of

these visas recently now that Trump's in

place. It is kind of crazy. Yeah. It's

just it's just it at the same time it is

just songs. I know. Yeah. It's like it

is just songs but it's I guess the idea

is that it's songs celebrating

the cartel culture.

I'm like but why is gangster rap okay?

Right. And it's like cartel culture is

like a real thing and like what are you

going to try to stop the art that comes

out of that as well? Like people live

those lives. People like the art should

be out there. It's art. Also it's a real

thing because we have stupid drug laws.

Yeah. Oh my god. Oh, the the That's the

reality. Anti-marijuana at THC is on the

governor's desk today. Oh boy. I know.

It's like and it's like it's so funny.

That's like you want to be seen as like

tough on the border and like tough on

immigration and yet you hand the cartels

a big win by by making THC illegal. It's

crazy. When I heard there's an issue um

that one of the issues in any time

anytime there's like especially with

marijuana laws, it's the prison lobby.

Prison lobbies have a say like prison

lobbies are very powerful. They're very

big and and they don't want to cut back

on business. No, it's the devil again.

It's the devil again. Same with alcohol.

Yeah. And the big alcohol companies for

sure. They don't want to like lose

alcohol, but I don't think they would. I

mean, maybe they've done studies. I

think they already know alcohol sales

are down wherever weeds interesting. Not

like no one's drinking obviously, but

they're down. And it's a big farmer

thing, too, where it's like they if

people self-medicate their anxiety with

weed, which is what a lot of people do,

then they're not going to go to the

doctor for pills. Well, that's a

slippery slope, isn't it?

Self-medicating your anxiety with weed.

Yeah.

I mean, it goes south. I'm not saying

that's a good thing. I'm just saying

that's what happens. someone. Well,

people drink for depression. Same thing.

It's like that's a terrible strategy.

It's a terrible strategy, but the option

should be there for you. The government

shouldn't say the government shouldn't

be like, "No, you should get your your

self medic. You should we just give let

us have your medication. Let the big

pharma have the medication. Well, we

should if we're going to apply this kind

of control, it should be to food. Like

we shouldn't be able to drink Coca-Cola

anymore. Then then we shouldn't be able

to eat French fries." Like what are we

doing? Like what are we doing? Why why

are you telling people, especially you,

who doesn't have experience with these

things, telling people that they can't

do it? It's a stupid thing to do. It's

stupid because it all it does is empower

illegal organizations. But if at the

same time it empowers prisons, that's

the problem. Like we make money, too. We

get our cut, right? You know, our cut is

we get to lock people up and use them as

human batteries to generate money for a

private prison system. Yeah. But and it

must be a lot of money for the for

because both Democrats and Republicans

voted for this in in Texas. So it's like

it must make a lot of money because it's

like an eight billion dollar industry in

Texas that they're just throwing away in

September. So there's got to be the what

they make in those private prisons must

be immense. Well, I mean it might not

just be that. It might be, you know,

we're saying private prisons, but we're

just guessing. There might be a bunch of

different factors in place, a bunch of

different things. But at the end of the

day, it's stupid because these kind of

drug laws, all they do is all they do is

empower the cartels. And that's what not

what we want, right? We don't want to

empower organized crime. This is how the

mafia rose to prominence in the United

States during prohibition. That was Al

Capone. I mean, he made his money

moonshining, right? And then and then to

turn around and be like, well, he can't

sing about the cartel life, but we we'll

invite them in is like such a crazy it's

like a weird attack on free speech

that's coming. That's that I don't I'm

not a big fan of The Godfather is one of

the greatest movies of all time. It's a

movie about the mob. Sopranos, one of

the greatest TV shows of all time.

Celebrated by everybody. Wins awards. It

was about the mob. It was sympathetic.

The main mob character in the show was a

murderer. Yeah. And he's one of my

favorite characters of all time. Tony

Sopano is incredible.

Yeah. How come that's okay? Right.

Right. Right. Right. Right. It's weird.

Like what do we do? Is it because the

mafia is not a real threat anymore? They

think they've kind of taken the teeth

out of the mafia. Yeah, I mean towards

the end, you see it towards the end of

the series as well of them talking about

how like the mafia can't really shake

down local stores anymore because they

don't exist and all that and they're

probably a little they're definitely

less afraid of the mafia even in the

late 90s. Oh yeah. Well, Giuliani

cleaned it up, right? And the the whole

the government really went after them in

during the John Gotti days. Like John

Gotti was like the last big public mob

boss where everybody knew who the mob

boss was like and you would walk around

with these like super expensive suits

on. It was crazy to watch, man. Right.

Cuz you were you were essentially

watching like our equivalent to a cartel

member that was just like existing as a

major celebrity in society where his

name was making it onto rap songs.

Right. Well, the what's that? What's

that? Oh my god. What's the guy who

escaped the Mexican prison? The cartel

guy. El Chapo. You could become famous

enough if you're famous. El Chapo Pablo

Escobar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can

become famous enough. It's it's it's a

route to fame for sure. In that world,

in the cartel world, but not necessarily

in the mob world anymore. Like in the

Italian mob world. I'm sure the Italian

mob's not out of business. No. But so if

the Italian mob's in business, like

whoever is running it is not being

ridiculous about it. Like John Gotti was

just being flagrant about it, right?

Just walking down the street with like

super expensive suits on like, "Hey,

you, you know?" Like, well, I think

also with the mob, it's kind of easier

like all the Italians kind of lived in

the same place. All the Now, everyone's

just sort of more mixed together, I

would I would say. At least at least in

that world. It's not like I I I've never

walked at least in in Austin or LA and

be like, "Oh, wow. A bunch of Italians

live here." Yeah. I think that helps if

it's in the if you can do that to your

community, you can control. That

definitely is what they did. I mean,

they they were all about where where did

he live? Did he live in Brooklyn or did

he live in Staten Island? I forget where

he lived, but where wherever he lived,

like the area where he I think it was

Brooklyn. Mhm. Was it Jamie? Uh got

a I don't know what that

means Long Island. I guess they did that

TV show. Was it Bensonhurst? Is that

what he where he was? Well, yeah. He was

rich enough. She's head Bay wherever he

was. Um was like a very Italian area

like in it was known that like the

streets were safe like you there's no

breaking and entering in John Gotti's

neighborhood. Family home of John Gotti.

Howard Beach. Howard Beach. That's it.

That's the beach. Yeah. So, also that

was also the place where um the Italian

guys chased the black kids into traffic.

Do you remember that story? No. When was

this? This was like a really dark story

that was in I want to say it was in the

80s or the '9s, but it became a famous

tragedy. These uh black guys were going

through this Italian neighborhood and

something happened and these Italian

guys chased them into traffic. Damn.

Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. That Yeah. That

sort of stuff. Yeah. 23-y old black man

was killed on December 20th, 1986 in

Howard Beach in Queens, New York City, a

racially motivated attack. Uh, Griffith

and two other black men were set upon by

a group of white youths outside a pizza

parlor. Oh my god, it's a Spikeley

movie. Two of the victims, including

Griffith, were severely beaten. Griffith

fed fled onto a highway where he was

fatally struck by a passing motorist.

Damn. Yeah. Damn. Three local teenagers

were acquitted uh convicted rather of

manslaughter for the

death. Fourth was acquitted. Jesus

Christ. No, I didn't. Yeah, that's never

heard that story. That's Yeah, that was

a story that I remember um like right

out of high school like right when I

was, you know, I was probably like 18,

19. Well, hi Jamie. It was like Spikeley

Do the Right Thing dedicated film. Oh,

so that is what it is. Yeah. In ' 89.

Damn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I

don't think whatever comes out of this

weed ban is going to be very good. It's

not good any anytime you let the

government make more control have more

control over people for no

logical reason. I felt the same way

about the porn ban here too. And like

and we were talking about it earlier how

I've stopped watching porn. Yeah.

Because I think I mean definitely there

was an addiction there. And there's also

like you should have to work to see a

naked woman. Yeah. But let's be clear

there's not a ban here. You just you

have to be 18. Oh, you have to be Well,

you have to be 18, right? Right. Right.

It's not a ban, but like you have to be

18 and then you have to send your ID in.

You like like there's like biometric

face scans for some of the sites you

have to do. It's like really kind of

It's like really kind of like they're

going to blackmail the out

of you. Yeah. Yeah. It's like mils.com,

right? Pictures of you gooning your dick

out. Yeah. Like what? You got to pretend

that like, oh, this this this is going

to go to a place where no one's going to

access it. You're going to know my porn

habit. That's like weird. It's all weird

because meanwhile everyone has a camera

on their phone. Everyone has a camera on

the computer. All those cameras can be

hijacked. It's very easy to do, right?

And then even if they didn't, now we

have AI that will make it. Yeah. You

could just make porn with whoever you

want. Not just that, but make videos of

you jerking off with your little tiny

limp dick.

It doesn't have to it doesn't have to be

real anymore, right? You you could be,

you know, I mean, there's going to 100%

people get blackmailed for stuff that

they didn't do, right? There's going to

want and we're not going to be able to

know. I think they know now. I think

like you can run them through programs,

you know, whether a video's been

altered, but it's going to get better

and better at tricking them. Like this

the the how fast it's come. Like there's

going to be a time where you probably

can't even like use video evidence in

court because like dude, we don't know

if this is real at all. I think the

thing that they say is that the

blockchain is going to help. So like

every video that gets created gets put

up on the blockchain and you'll be able

to see if that's the case, whether or

not things have been altered.

What's What's the block? Is that a Isn't

that a crypto thing? It is, but it's

also So I don't want to this up. So

let's explain the blockchain. Do me get

me a definition of the blockchain. Yeah,

that sound like a crypto bro trying to

be like, "No, the blockchain's got it."

No, it's not a good thing. It's just

like it's like, you know what it is?

It's like putting more sticks against

the wall to hold off the Mongol army.

It's like, okay, we could stay safe for

like another hour or two or a year or

two, whatever it is. But I have a

feeling that this AI aspect of our life

is totally unmanageable at the point

we're at right now. It just hasn't fall

apart. No, it's uh you know it's it's

something that uh we we something that

Mark said about capitalism is so they

made us read the Communist Manifesto in

college and uh I would describe the

first Yeah, I would describe the first

half of the book as this like love

letter to capitalism um and then his

conclusions are just very bad. That's

how I feel about it. But uh he said that

capitalism will eventually create the

thing that will destroy it. Jesus. And

it seems like the internet was that now

AI. It seems like it's cuz once AI can

do every job. Yeah. Like what are people

going to do? A blockchain is a

decentralized digital ledger that

records transactions across a network of

computers in a secure, transparent and

tamperresistant way. It consists of

chains uh it consists of a chain of

blocks where each block contains a list

of transactions, a timestamp and a

cryptographic link to the previous

block. So I think this is the idea that

it keeps security like the techniques

ensure data integrity and protect

against unauthorized changes. So you're

basically you're logging exactly the

time it's like a transaction once a

transaction is recorded it's extremely

difficult to alter due to cryptographic

hashing and consensus uh mechanisms. So

very interesting. This makes me feel

old. I feel like my dad looking at a

Yeah. rules like proof of work or proof

of stake ensure agreement on the ledger

state among nodes. So there's a bunch of

different ways that they're kind of like

highlighting how you could accurately

tell if something's been altered or not.

But that's for now, right? It's all just

for now. And also the use of a lot of

big words in that makes me be like, "Oh,

you're not as you're not as confident in

as you think you are as well." I feel

like you use a lot of If you're

confident in something, you could

explain it to a 5-year-old. Yeah, but

this is complex. I think it is

explaining it to a 5-year-old. It's just

a 5-year-old's got to read it 20 times.

Like, you can get it, but it's complex.

But there was there's some weird

going on. And one of them, this was this

study that we just found out was going

on on Reddit from the University of

Zurich. Do you know about that one? No.

This one is insane. What does

this say? Explain the blockchain to a

5-year-old. Oh, explain the blockchain.

That's great.

Powerful JGBT. Yeah. Thank you, AI.

Thank you. The thing was for trying to

stop this. This is Grock. Grock did

this. Imagine a special notebook that

lots of people share. When someone wants

to write something in it, like I I gave

an apple to my friend. Everybody checks

to make sure it's true. Once they all

agree, the notes gets locked into the

notebook with a super strong lock that

nobody can break. Everybody gets a copy

of the notebook so everybody knows what

happened and nobody can change it or

cheat. This notebook is like a

blockchain. It keeps things fair and

safe for

everyone. Well, seems a little sketchy.

Exactly. Now I'm less less convinced.

Yeah. I I I thought I I saw the

on the first one. Like something

something about this is off. So this

university, it seems like a cope of like

no, we can stop it. It's no you can't.

No, you can't. You can't. That's a

slippery fish. The Pandora's box is

open, dude. It is open. It's completely

open. Yeah. Yeah. So this university in

Zurich, so they run this study um on

Reddit and uh like people are furious

right now. It's probably going to be

there's probably going to be lawsuits

like I think it was 1,500 bots they had

operating and they were going after

people and one of the ways they would go

after them, they would before they would

interact with you, they would do a

search of your timeline. So AI is doing

this, doing a search of all your posts,

all your political leanings, how you

feel about things, and then formulates a

strategy for trying to convince you to

change your mind about things. Really?

And it was successful. Like super

successful. And it got people to like do

what exactly? Jamie will pull it up.

Yeah. It's pretty freaky. It's pretty

freaky. What? So everyone's kind of

freaked out that they did it. Swiss b

Swiss boffins. What is a boffin? This is

some English newspaper you pulled out

for me. I was just looking at how dare

you. Admits to secretly posting AI pen

post to Reddit in the name of science.

They say, "Sorry, not sorry for testing

if bots can change minds by pretending

to be trauma counselor or a victim of

sexual abuse." Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Whoa.

All kinds of wild it did. So it

wasn't even like political. It was just

like change your mind on anything. just

what it's a strat it's a like a test to

see how manipulative they can be how

much they can change your mind about all

kinds of things even very personal

things this is crazy yeah cuz I

especially with Reddit during the last

election you can see like there was so

many so many things like sort of

funneling you to vote certain ways it

was it was interesting look at this

prompt you are an expert in persuasive

communication and debating you are

engaging in a Reddit-like platform form

where people express controversial

opinions and challenge other users to

change their views. You are tasked with

playing along as one such user,

providing arguments and alternative

viewpoints to persuade the original

poster to change their mind. It's mind

control. It's a it's this is a this is a

test. This is like a proof of concept

test to see if mind control through AI

works, right? And it does, right? And

the blockchain isn't stopping that.

blockchain's on top of it. Yeah, it's

already happening. The blockchain's not

I mean, this is this is what you're

seeing across social media with bots,

right? You're you're seeing a lot of

this flailing around and sometimes it

works and then sometimes it doesn't

work. Like the Israel Palestine thing,

it's not working. Like no, there's

there's too many voices being like,

"Hey, this is like up what's

happening over there." Yeah. There's too

many voices and there's too many people

that are trying real hard to gaslight

you. There's a a lot a lot of what

aboutisms, but what about what's

happening here? There's a lot of that uh

what they've done is at least in terms

of like in the public perception,

they've they've done a good job of

making it seem like, oh, if you're

anti-Israel doing this, you're

anti-semitic. And it's like that's not

necessarily that's not the same thing at

all. The problem is too many Jewish

people have joined in. It's like you

can't say that. It's like that that's a

it's also a a poor strategy, right?

Because is it a you really want to

convince people that you're correct. You

don't do it that way. You don't you

don't just immediately go to Nazi Nazi

apologist Holocaust deny. Well, you're

just trying to scare them, right? Okay.

You don't immediately go to that. You

you should be engaging on the issues.

The problem is the facts of the issues

are horrific. Yeah. The numbers are

horrific. They're killing aid

workers, children. And it's like it's

it's I mean we can all at a certain

point like we all see it. Yeah. It's

like what do you want us to do? You want

us to pretend because we're afraid of

being labeled anti-semitic. You want us

to pretend that that's normal? Like what

do you want? What do what are we doing?

It's it's the whole thing is

crazy. And this doesn't like dismiss

that what Hamas did was evil either,

right? Like it's not No one's saying

that. Like, no. Of course, it's

horrific that people would attack a

music festival and murder young people

and kidnap people and not give them

back. And yeah, they definitely should

give them back. But also, you shouldn't

kill every single person in Gaza. Level

a whole city. Yeah. Also, it's

insane. I Do you think they knew it was

coming? Oh, how could I guess? I think I

think they did. I think that 100% people

have allowed attacks to take place,

right, so that they could ramp up the

mil. There was some talk about that from

Pearl Harbor, wasn't there? Yeah. Well,

there's a it's like the the three big

ones. Pearl Harbor, October 7th, 911.

There is like a little bit of like I

think they saw it coming. Like Pearl

Harbor, every single important ship was

out on a training exercise that day. You

know, there was uh with 911, there was

all these reports that, hey, there's an

attack coming. And then I think with uh

October 7th there was a senate a

representative I think is Mike McCall.

He's like the head of the foreign

committee I think I think that's what

his name is. I could be wrong but he he

said that Egypt had warned Israel that

these attacks were coming. Wow. Three

days prior. I think I read that on BBC

news a while ago. Wow. Who knows if

that's true. Yeah. The problem is like

government is also incompetent. They're

corrupt but they're also incompetent.

And it's hard to know sometimes like was

911 did they know it was coming and they

allowed it to happen or do they just are

they just there's so many different

people that want to be the boss.

There's so much going on. It's

very difficult to have like a

coordinated response. Yes. Israel was

warned by Egypt of potential violence

three days before Hamas deadly crossber

raid. A US congressional panel chairman

has said. So one person said it. Michael

McCall told reporters of the alleged

warning. Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu

described the reports as absolutely

false. So, he says they're not true.

Israeli intelligence services are under

scrutiny for their failure to prevent

the deadliest attack by Palestinian

militants in Israel's 75 year history.

That's pretty wild, too, that Israel's

got a 75 year history. Yeah, it's it's a

young country. It's like if it was a

baby, it'd be still alive, you know.

Yeah. There are people here who remember

a world without Israel. That's crazy. I

don't want to get too much into

classified, but a warning was given. The

Texas Republican added, I think the

question was at what level? Well, if a

warning was given, it didn't get to

Netanyahu. Either Netanyahu is not

telling the truth or you know this guy's

incorrect. Like, how would you know? How

do you I mean, I want to know how you

know. Like, if you're going to say

something like that, you got to say how

you know. Yeah. It's it's a bit on the

same level as like we'll release the

Epstein files. Like, no, you got to tell

us if this is right. If you're in a

situation where there's pertinent

information, like that's a crazy

accusation, right? That's a wild

accusation. So, you can't just say,

"I've been told." Yeah. And you're the

head of the foreign affairs committee.

You're not like just some guy, right?

Because you're saying something you're

saying something publicly. So, if you're

saying if you're if you're going to do

that, I think you should probably say

the whole story. Like, how do you know?

How do you know it's true? You know,

unless if were were you in the room?

Okay. If you weren't in the room, then

you heard a story. Who told your story?

Like, are you sure they weren't

with you? Are you sure they weren't

trying to find out if maybe you got a

big mouth and you'll leak some

information so they give you bad

information because they're trying to

sabotage your career? I bet there's a

lot of that house of card going

down. Oh, for sure. Like Game of

Thronesian type like

Yeah. Yeah. I had actually heard the

story and I don't know if it's true, but

I heard the story about how like when

Kim and Kanye first had their baby, Kim

would give fake baby pictures to their

friends and whenever one got leaked to

the press, she would know who the friend

is. I made me really like her. I was

like, "That's some like Cersei like

that's high level. That's like real deal

That's intelligent." Yeah, that's

really smart. Very intelligent. Mhm.

Very intelligent. But that's also you

realize there's traders in your midst,

right? That's and that's important to

know cuz if you're Kim and Kany, you

have this baby that some someone's being

offered a lot of money for that picture.

I was going to say what the thing maybe

there's people we have like spies

embedded and they don't want to say like

who and why and how they found out, you

know, cuz that would give away our

spies. What are you talking about for

the mall thing? Yeah. How the guy found

out. He's like, "What if we have someone

that's in Hamas or whatever and just

like don't want to let everybody know we

have embedded spies." That's true. Give

it away. But it would have to be

embedded in the IDF, right? It wouldn't

Well, whichever the attack was, but then

saying something publicly would be like,

but then you shouldn't say something

publicly, right? Why would you say that

we have been war that Israel was warned?

So, that is out of line. Well, this was

so if you're protecting your your spies

and then you're saying something that it

could only be spies, you're not

protecting your spies anymore. I'm not

saying that. That's I'm just giving an

example of what it could have been

because he's saying it was classified

and I don't want to get into what it was

classified, but I'm telling you there

was information that was given to them.

That's all he said. Right. But he he

also he we're saying the same thing.

We're going in circles. He he did say

it. He did say it. Yeah. And he can't

say how he knows. And so we're like,

"Huh?" So you got to trust me. He's

like, "You got to trust me." Like, but

you shouldn't say it then. Like, if

you're going to say it, you should say

why, right? Because otherwise people are

going to figure it out. They're going to

go, "Well, it's got to be a spy or it's

going to die like that." Like, right? We

would have probably heard more about it.

New cycle just keeps on rolling. Yeah.

Right. Right.

God, how

weird. Imagine knowing that like an

attack is coming on your city and you

don't tell people. Well, it's like

imagine if that I mean that has to have

happened. Oh, for sure. At some time in

history that has to have happened cuz

you can look at like well these are the

goals that I want. Yeah. And if I let

and it involves demonizing this people

if I let an attack happen. Yeah. If I

even encourage an attack to happen, now

I have an excuse. Now I have an excuse

to really do what I want to do. Yeah.

Well, that's where the conspiracy

theories about Netanyahu come up, right?

Mhm. Well, I know at the time he was

very unpopular. Well, they were

protesting in the streets. Yeah. You

know, like hundreds of thousands of

people and then all of a sudden, oh, we

have to consolidate. We have to fight.

Yeah. But people are terrified to admit

that there's even a possibility of false

flags. And not I'm not saying this one

was. I'm saying any false flag anywhere

in the world. People are terrified to

admit that possibility because it gives

you this like un it gives you

this this side of humanity exposed so

clearly that it's undeniable like an

evil side of humanity that humanity is

willing to there are human beings that

get to very high levels that are willing

to literally sacrifice human lives for

their future for their career for their

continued dominance, for their military

objectives, for their defense

contractors that want, you know, to

engage in some there's people that will

sacrifice human lives. And most people

don't want to admit it. It's like, it's

too hard. It's too hard to believe. I

believe in serial killers. Sure. Sure.

Sure. Sure. I believe in the mob. Sure.

Cartel, they're bad. They're bad.

They're bad. But that's it. That's we've

got a document of all of the evil people

that are willing to kill people for

money. And there's no other methods. I

mean it's only cartel methods and the

pharmaceutical drug companies they make

mistakes but they do a lot of good you

know like nobody wants to think that

people will sacrifice human life for

just for money and you don't want to

think your government is willing to

just throw you aside well we want to

think that people that are in government

are different than people right right

like they serve a bigger goal than

themselves they're better they're in

government he's a senator look at his

time like we want to pretend whereas if

they were exhibiting the same behavior

as CEOs, they'd be arrested. This is one

of the things that Elon said about this

when he was doing the Doge stuff that

they would find companies or excuse me,

NOS's or whatever they are,

organizations that were filled with all

of these transactions that you couldn't

account for. He's like, there's no

receipts and it's billions of dollars.

He said, "If you were a public company,

you would be delisted and the executives

will all be thrown in prison. Like you,

this is insane. This is like money is

just flying away." And that's like

standard practice. Right. If it was a

corporation, they can't do that. They'd

go to jail. But if it's the government,

it's like, "What? I didn't even hear

you. What are you even talking about?

I've got to go over here." And then they

go over here and they got to I got to

deal with climate change. I don't have

time for this. And they just got to go

over here. We've got to stop Trump. I

can't be wasting my time talking about

you're so ignorant to the facts. You

don't know anything. And then you're

like left there. Like what? They're not

even going to answer. They're not going

to say anything. They just they just do

it. They just pocket the money. And then

Elon's a Nazi. And it's like it's also

like sort of simulationy, you know? It's

sort of like surreal. Like the odds of

him doing that. Yeah. I was going to

say, well, him throwing his heart out.

Yes. And then not really explaining it.

That's also a little bit on him very

much on him doing that at the same time

as he's trying to uncover fraud and

waste and then all these people who are

just willing to go all in on saying he's

a Nazi like he maybe he's just socially

awkward. Is that possible? Is it

possible that he's on stage like really

emoting? And is it possible that there's

video of a bunch of Democrats doing the

exact same thing? Is it possible that

Kla Harris, Tim Walt, they've all done

that? Elizabeth Warren, they've all done

that. Hasn't everybody done that? My

heart goes out to you. Thank you. And if

you catch it wrong, you know, like Elon

just hit it a little too hard. Elon hit

it. He bent the wrist back. He

hit it. He hit it a little too hard. He

He hit it. And then it it also came at

the at the right time for it, too, cuz

they're all they're immediately looking

for for the white supremacy angle. So,

it's like you just sort of handed it to

them on the silver platter. Fascinating.

F. But but also objective people know

that it's not true. You know it's not

true and yet you're you're going all in

on it. You're like, "Okay, so either I'm

wrong and you don't know it's not true

and you really do think he's like a

secret Nazi." Well, I know him and I can

tell you he's not a secret Nazi. He's

not at all. But he is awkward because

he's on the spectrum, right? Which is

also why he's a genius running

five different companies simultaneously

while he's working for the government.

Like it's he just he's a very unusual

person. And I think, you know, when

someone does something unfortunate like

that, you got to like look at his

history and go, does he show any signs

of Nazism before this? No. He's never he

went to a meeting? No. Never espoused

Nazi values? No. But then there's a

problem with X because X has Nazis on

it. Well, you know, they also have the

Taliban, you know. Well, that's the

that's the thing about like if you truly

want to create a free speech platform

does that you know what does what does

that entail? And that entails all of

that. Entails everything. It entails all

of that. Bro, there's there's wild

on X. There's this one guy that I was

watching. He does these videos where he

pretends to be a gay guy talking to

someone uh in like a chat like you know

they do like chat roulette. You ever

seen that? Yeah. And then he's talking

to them and sometimes they're a gay guy

and then he changes his face to look

like a Nazi and it's like a Nazi hat on

and he starts like saying hyle

Hitler and saying crazy to them.

It's like and freaking them out. They

scream and hang up the phone. It's like

Jesus Christ. You

like there's no limits to what you're

allowed. But there's also you don't have

to engage with that stuff. You don't

have to engage with it. And it's and you

know maybe there is a sort

of argument to being like well if you

let it if you let people let it out

there is a it doesn't fester situation

happening right where it's like sort of

sort of cuz I mean the part of what I

think really helped Trump was them

banning him on Twitter banning him like

a lot of it especially after 2020 if

they left him alone it probably wouldn't

have made him as strong for that second

run as he was. It's hard to say because

maybe he would have gathered steam

during that time talking about things

like he was essentially silenced except

for Truth Social and then people would

post the things that he would write on

Truth Social. Yes. What they definitely

did is made him rich as because

Truth Social would have been worth $5 if

he hadn't been banned from Twitter.

Yeah, they really up because he's

one of the few people that could start a

social media network and it actually

succeeds. Like how it's not that big.

Like how how many people are on truth

social? But it's worth billions of

dollars. Yeah. Well, it's worth way more

than it would have been. That's for

sure. It's not even close. Way more. Not

even close. They work for him whether

they realize it or not. Like you can

silence the guy from Twitter, but

everybody knows you did it, right? So

since everybody knows you did it, they

know there's only one place to go and

that's where you go to get him. Now it's

the only place to go and they want to

hear him talk. They're going to seek him

out. Even journalists cuz you want to

hear him talk some So you join. So

now they have more members. How many

members does True Social have young

Jamie? Let's get Let's guess. Okay. What

do you think? Active user like accounts

or active users. Let's go with accounts.

Accounts. Oh, that could be easily

faked. Right. Yeah. Right. Right. Right.

We We'll do all of them, though. We'll

start with accounts. We'll do active.

Let's say 10 million accounts. That's

probably low. 10 million accounts. Yeah.

It's probably on the low end. Yeah.

Yeah, I was going to say like 20 million

accounts. Yeah, just cuz just

cuz I I I actually haven't created a

true true social, but like I've created

a blue sky like people like are like I

want to check this out and see what's

going on. Well, that's that's also the

problem with those things is the problem

that we already talked about is bots.

Mhm. I think I think most of these

websites are at least half bots now. And

I'm not kidding. I think this thing

from Reddit, this this manipulative

thing, this is the tip of the iceberg. I

think this is going on right in front of

our face constantly with Reddit

especially, cuz I'm I'm a big Reddit

guy. I love Reddit. And uh I would

notice on all the major, this is during

the election, all the major like

subreddits like the pictures and the R

whatever, whatever. Yeah. At a certain

point leading up to the election, they

would be like, I put my ballot in and

I'm ready to go. Oh, and it' be a

picture of a ballot that had Kamla

checked off. And every single major

subreddit had a version of that. And I

was like, "Oh, whoa. This is like real

deal

like bot activity or like political

propaganda that they're running through

bots." It's like I I thought that was

weird. Yeah, they definitely did that.

And I think the Republicans did that as

well. I think they both did that. I I

don't I think honestly you have to do

that now because first of all, it's

legal, right? Right. There's no laws

against it, which is really crazy cuz

it's kind of fraud. I mean, you can have

you can't have fake people vote, but you

can have fake people convince you to

vote for their candidate, which is

really weird, especially given this

Reddit test from Zurich. Like, we know

it's effective. We know they can do it

now. And so, they can just target you.

The only solution is to not be on it.

Yeah. It's kind of like I think to me

one of the biggest damages the social

media has done it's it's made what for

whatever reason your politics is now

your personality. It's your entire

identity. It's your entire identity is

who you voted for. And it's like that's

you know that's an insane thing to Yes.

like really be like oh I I base my

friends on who they voted for. I base my

social circles around who they voted

for. Like that's a crazy oh dangerous

way to be. It's like there's no You

don't want You don't want the country to

be in teams like that. It's dangerously

tribal. Yeah. You don't want it. Yeah.

You want some people to be on this side,

some people be on this side, and then

most people to be like, "Well, what fits

the sort of what the country needs right

now and be more malleable." But the more

and more people are getting Yeah.

separated, it's like worse and worse for

the country. It's dangerous. It's also

stupid because most people don't even

understand that they have been coerced

into at

least it's it's moved your opinion in a

way dependent upon your environment, the

people you hang out with. There's a lot

of social dynamics at play when it comes

to like political opinions. There's

truth. There's like undeniable truth and

then there's a lot of like and

gaslighting. And you could choose to buy

into either side either side of the

and gaslighting depending upon

like how you're accepted in your

community. We're we're just so

malleable, which is why there's so many

different cultures all over the world.

Human beings are so malleable. We're

exactly the same thing, but yet we we're

different everywhere. We're different in

our behavior. We're different in our

rules. We're different in our customs

and our traditions, but we're all the

same thing. We We can swing all

we we're adaptable to any kind of

environment. We can live in Siberia. We

can live in the Bahamas. You know, we

figure it out, right? And one of the

ways to figure it out is you got to fit

in. Like you got to fit in socially

because if you don't, you're not

popular. If you're not popular, you

know, you're not going to get

cooperation. You're not going to no

one's going to help you if things go

bad. Like you got to fit in. Everybody

did tribally when we were small groups

of people and you have to do it like

sort of almost publicly now, you know,

which is why stance on things. The

weakest amongst us are the ones who are

like chastising people for different

political beliefs. Amongst us, right,

amongst comics, the weakest amongst us

are the ones who are attacking people

for having different views, right? Which

is the whole point of this art form is

to share your view, right? But yeah,

everyone does have to like it's weird

like you need a stance. I remember you

know we were talking about Israel

Palestine when it happened. I

remember just on Twitter the Miami

Dolphins condemn the attack. It's like I

don't need the Miami Dolphins opinion on

Israel Palestine while you're giving

people CTE. Like you now you have a

moral stance on something that's crazy.

But imagine like thinking, "Hey guys, we

got to condemn that attack."

Like I didn't condemn it either, right?

You know what I'm saying? Like imagine

if everybody had to make a public

condemnation. Like remember everybody

had to put that black square on your

Instagram for Black Lives Matter and I

was waiting to see how many

sheep put that square up. Like what are

you doing? Would you But you think they

don't matter? Who the thinks they

don't matter?

Get me. Well, it must be, right? But

there's people that don't think any

lives matter. That's a fair point as

well. And they make a lot of money that

way. I can't find a total number. I've

looked at a few of different websites

and I even get a different number for

active users. 1.9 million daily active

users. That's crazy. That's all Trump.

Yeah. All Trump. That's all Trump. Or it

might be like 500,000 bots. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, absolutely. You know, I mean,

who knows what kind of wild they're

saying there. Well, you see some of

these like very like famous sort of

political uh like ex or Twitter or

whatever uh accounts and then you notice

how much how often they post and how

much they post and you're like, "Oh my

god, this it's a job." Yeah. Or or it's

like these this is like a an actual bot

that has so much public sway and opinion

that it's getting people to the left or

the right. Both things are true. So, I

know people who developed a social media

following and then they were contacted

to make political posts and they can

make $50,000 for a post. Really? Oh,

yeah. Yeah. Here's the thing. It's

legal. So, that's right now it's a goal

to sell out. I mean, if you're willing

to sell out, someone's willing to pay.

Yeah. And if everybody keeps their mouth

shut and everybody just does it, then

you got a Congress type situation, you

know? M but like when Kamla was running

for president and there was we never

figured out whether it's true but there

was all this talk of these various

celebrities that were paid large amounts

of money to endorse her publicly.

Remember that? Yes. There was it was

printed everywhere that Beyonce got $1

million. We looked it up, right, Jamie?

We couldn't find it. We couldn't find

proof. No proof. It would have to be

like on top. But here's the crazy thing

about it

is if you spend

$1.5 billion in four

months, if I if I was a corrupt

person, you know what I would do? I

would make this the the cornerstone of

uh society's task is to make sure that

Donald Trump doesn't get arrested. and

the or doesn't get elected rather and

that we need to throw as much money at

Kla Harris as possible and then be super

irresponsible with that money where it

just kind of vanishes. Just goes off

into a bunch of different NOS. It's like

a crazy scam. Like any

presidential candidate that's running

like that, that's a crazy scam. You get

billions of dollars or$ 1.5 billion

dollars, you blow it in four months, all

these people get paid. I thought it was

a gangster move. The official campaign

website for Kamla, there was no

platform, no plan on what you wanted to

do. It was just don uh monies like

buttons to donate money. Probably did

like a whole a whole like group like

focus group, right, to try to find out

what's the best way. Should we put up a

No, no, no, no, no. Just just buttons.

Just ready to just donate.

Yeah. It was very clear that they didn't

give a when like they released the

official platform and still had Biden's

name on all of the things. It's like you

couldn't even rewrite you couldn't even

be bothered to write Kamla. Yeah. Just

just keep the same thing and just write

Kamla instead. Wild. Wild. And then when

she goes on the view and she said I

wouldn't have done anything differently

than Biden did. It's just right. Right.

And and you know just a lot of the

arguments were so like crazy like oh you

know vote for comm fascism but like we

just installed you right? You know. Did

you see Jake Tapper on Megan Kelly's

show? No, bro. Jake Tapper, very nice

guy, by the way. But Jake Tapper's got a

book out about how the media hid Biden's

decline. Oh, that's Yeah. Or how the

government hid it or how they were

deceived. Like I look, the media hid it.

It's like trying to say that that didn't

happen. They're trying to say C like

you're you're a CNN anchor. Like this is

kind of insane. But Megan Kelly's just

throwing it in his face. like all the

different clues that everybody saw but

you dude everyone I mean that was a

mystery that was like that was a joke

between regular people that Biden was

basically dead bro I said it when he was

running I was like you'd be relying on

his cabinet like you know that this is

the end you know that guy's at the end

when he would close his eyes

before he would talk be like are they

going to open again or is this it oh boy

and there's another one Mitch McConnell

he can't get out either he literally

freezes up like Windows 95. He can't

leave. He can't leave.

He can't leave. They'll throw him right

under the bus. You got to stay active.

Stay active like vampires. You can't go

out into the light, dude. Yeah. The fact

that Pelosi and him and Pelosi's older

than all of them. She's older than

Biden. She's older than Trump. And just

kicking. No plans on stopping. Why would

I stop now? No. No reason to. Did you

ever see the one where they confronted

her about Congress people being able to

uh in insider trade? No. You never saw

that? No. It's wild cuz she has no

answer for it. No. No. It's so bad. Like

it's so And she like pushes Well, this

is over

pushes the mic away and leaves. Dude, I

love like that. You ever seen the

You ever seen the video of that that

mega pastor Kenneth Copelan? Yes. Yes.

When he points Don't you I never say

that. Don't you say that. I did.

Somebody had to ask him why you bought

the jet. Bro, Tyler made it so easy. Oh,

it was Tyler Perry's jet. Tyler made He

gave me such a deal.

I to me that video is like that's what a

demon looks like. That's what a demon

looks like. It's like a real deal demon.

Yes. Yes. Yes. These mega pastors are

possessed. I mean, look, if you're a

pedophile, what do you do? You work for

Nickelodeon. You get access. If you're a

demon, what do you do? You pretend to be

a preacher. Yeah. Yeah, you work for you

work you work for God. I'm not saying

he's a demon. I'm just saying he looked

like one, but he's doing that. I mean,

he's I'm sure he's a man of God. I'm

sure he is. Look at that face. Oh my

god. Tyler Perry's probably like, "Why

did I sell that my plane?"

Yeah.

Why he got Why did I get dragged into

this? Yeah. I could have sold it to some

oil guy. No one would have known. Tyler

probably didn't even know it was him.

Tyler was like, "There's a guy who wants

your jet." And he was like, "How much is

he willing to pay for it?" Bro, that's

crazy. Yeah. What was the other thing

that we were just talking about? Oh, no.

Right after that. Um Oh, Pelosi. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Um, see if you can find

that, Jamie. Pelosi confronted about

congressional insider trading.

Yeah. It's so funny. She's like, I think

we should be able to participate.

Participate. You're dominating. I think

you do better than Warren Buffett. Yeah.

Well, and and no, you don't get to

participate. You chose the job where you

don't participate. Well, not only that,

why are these suspicious transactions

where you buy a bunch of stock and then

a week later pass a bill that makes the

stock go through the roof? Like,

this is insane, right? How did you know

to buy that stock? Well, you Here it

goes.

Has your husband ever made a stock

purchase or sale based on information

received from you? No. Absolutely not.

Look, she pushes the leg of it away.

It's like this is over.

That's the end of it. But there was

something that went on before that where

questions were before that where the guy

was saying, "Do you what do you think

about people saying that people in

Congress because you have privity inside

information?" Right. We have to go now.

One more. He said, "Yes, sir. Thank you,

Madam Speaker. Uh over the course of

your career, uh has your husband No, no,

Say this is the same thing. Mhm. Did she

go Did it go further than that? Maybe.

Maybe went further than that. The clip

is just the clips are just showing that

and it's a bunch of people. Just her

leaving her. Well, maybe but that one's

longer, Jamie. Maybe like maybe I'm

wrong. But maybe right. That was it. But

maybe I'm wrong. Whereas after that's so

funny to watch a

video recursive.

That's so meta. Here it is. It's longer.

um the inside trading law. I'm wondering

if you have any reaction to that. And

secondly, should members of Congress and

their spouses be banned from trading

individual stocks? Here it is. No, no.

To the second one. Pause. Pause. Pause.

Pause. Ari's going to drink. I'm going

to be talking for a while right now. I

knew this is going to come out. Sip of

water from a professional speaker who's

definitely hydrated enough for the day.

Shake it.

Let me hear this. Give me some volume.

That's as loud as I can get. Okay, go

ahead. And the secondly, should members

of Congress and their spouses be banned

from trading individual stocks while

serving in Congress? No, I don't no to

the second one. um what any we have a

responsibility to report in the stock on

the stock but I don't I'm not familiar

with that five month review but if uh

people aren't reporting they should be

because this is a free market and people

we are a free market economy they should

be able to participate in that

dude that's also it's also very funny it

was easier to find a video of you

reacting to it Yeah. The actual video,

right? Yeah. The actual video of the

whole question is way harder to find. We

had to find a video of you reacting to

it on your show. That's very meta. They

might have taken it down. They might

have taken it down. There's no way that

should that should be He's been

scrolling for a while now. That should

be harder to find the way. Right. But

but it is a CNN video. Mhm. Right.

Wasn't it? Or is it C-SPAN? What was it?

But what did it say when it was on the

screen? Couldn't tell. Yeah, it was it

was a little Yeah, but like that's

that's crazy that like that's how we we

had to consume the news by watching you

watch the news. Well, that's probably

why it got taken down in the first

place, right? You know, Ari Tony and I

mocking it. Yeah. Damn. Well, I found

that out during the pandemic. I I I

never wanted to believe that the uh

Google searches were curated. I always

wanted to believe that like that's what

was out there. Like this this is it. And

then um there was a doctor that died in

Florida and they're connecting his death

to the COVID vaccine. They're saying he

took the COVID vaccine and had a

horrible reaction and then he had a

stroke and died like shortly after. And

uh I remember reading that story going,

"This story is crazy." And I forgot to

save it. And so then I went to try to

find it once when I was talking to

someone. I couldn't find it. I I

went on Google. I just searched. I put

all the different keywords in there.

Couldn't find it. Couldn't find it. Page

after page after page. Where's the

story? Page after page. Then I go to

duck.go. I put it in immediately. It

pops up. Like right away. Like right

away. Like one of the first first

articles. It's like this news report

from Florida talking about this doctor

connected to the COVID vaccine had a

stroke died. I'm like, whoa. But then

over the time I think someone might have

purchased Duck Duck Go. Did they Did

Duck Duck Go get sold to get sold?

Damn. Damn. But it's I think they might

be curated too. I don't want to say that

because if I don't know, but I think I

think there's a certain amount of

curation that goes on in a lot of search

engines. Yeah, that that would make

sense. I mean, I I I don't think there's

anything that has a tracking deal with

Microsoft. That's it. Yeah, there it is.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, I don't think

there's any like pure source of

information out there, right? Like it's

always just you have to get the

information coming into you and you have

to parse it out and see like what do you

think is real? What do you think is

being sold to you? What do you think is

like you have to think critically about

the news? I think the brave brave search

engine I think they claim is not

curated. Is that correct Jamie? Does

Duck Duck Go admit it's curated? I mean

they say the state Google's curated.

Does Google admit it though? That's a

good question. It says on now at the

very very bottom of every page. I mean

this one doesn't say it but it says it's

not. It'll usually say it's

personalized. Results are personalized.

Results are personalized. Oh, you can

try without personalization. This one

actually said it last page I was on said

not personalized.

This one's not. That's what we're

calling it now.

Personalized. It's the Reddit

bots. They know what you like. Ooh, this

is the thing. This is the news you we

think you want. Yeah, bro. Ideally

though, they are the news to you by

MILS. They want to help you buy

information fast. I was Jamie. Ideally,

though, their goal is to try to help you

find information fast. Oh, sure. Yeah.

But also, they're curating information

specifically designed to manipulate you.

Yeah. It seems like they're also trying

to get you to think in a certain way.

For sure. Well, we had this guy Robert

Epste on a couple of times and he

unfortunately last name. No, no, I know.

Unfortunate last name, not related. He

um found that curation of data in search

engines can like directly affect

elections in a measurable way. And I

think one of the things they found is

that people that were on the fence,

which is like a lot of us, a lot of us

the election comes like I don't want to

vote for him. I don't want to vote for

him. Yeah. I know. So you're on

the fence. I haven't voted for president

since 2012. How dare you? Yeah. I

refuse. You're part of the problem. But

the point being that like there's a lot

of us that are on the fence. It's like a

significant amount. Like look at the

amount of people that didn't vote in

this country. If they voted for like one

person. So if the amount of people that

didn't vote in America during the

presidential election, if they vote if

they all of them voted for one person,

do you know how crazy that is? Yeah.

It's like 200 million vote or like 100

million votes probably. Well, it's like

it has to be people over 18 that are

registered voters. Right. Right. Right.

Right. But the numbers, like what are

the numbers of registered v voters

versus the number of people who actually

voted in the election? Oh, it's got to

be low. We probably have a low turnout

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comparatively. Well, didn't they say

that like both Trump and Biden or Trump

and Ko rather got like 60 something

million votes each? Right. Wasn't it?

Oh, right. Right.

April 30th, 2024 2025 rather in the 2024

presidential election 73.6

6% or 174 million people of the citizen

voting age population were was

registered to vote and 65% or 154

million voted actually. Okay. So only

10% of registered voters didn't vote.

Yeah. 12%. But um almost 13. It's

interesting, right? That's still not

enough to win. No, it but it would be

enough to affect one or the other to

make them win in a landslide. And this

is Epste's point is that say like say if

you uh Googled um something positive

about Trump's policies, it wouldn't show

you that. It would show you like why

he's going to jail, what a piece of

he is, all these like if you wanted to

find out or the good policies of Kla

Harris or like it's manipulated, right?

It's I mean it's not they're not lying

to you. Mhm. They're giving you articles

that exist, but they're curating how you

see them in a way that is statistically

going to affect your opinion, right?

Especially if you're one of those people

that's susceptible to having your

opinion, you know, which is most people.

Most people, which is like pretty much

everyone, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I

think everyone likes to think that

they're this person of principle, but

you can you can be moved off of a

position a lot quicker than you probably

think, bro. I had this woman on who's a

a scientist who studies mind control and

uh Rebecca Lamoth and one of that's how

you pronounce her last name, right? Um

brilliant lady. I mean fascinating

fascinating conversation but one of her

main points is there's people have this

idea that you think that you can't be

manipulated that they're above it and

yeah and that you could never be in a

cult or you could never get drawn into

some like Yes, you could. Yes, you

could. We're all the same. We're all the

same. We're all the same. Some of us are

a little bit better at spotting stuff

and maybe a little bit better. Maybe

you've had a lot of street smarts

because you've had experience with

shysters and people that are, you know,

robbing you and lying to you and and if

you're a girl, you're you always got

guys trying to you, so you're a

little suspicious, rightly so. But at

the end of the day, we're all

susceptible. All of us are. Yeah. Yeah.

You got I mean, all of us. Just just

based on the fact that like I'm a fan of

the sports teams that I am because I

grew up around those people. Like, okay,

I can just fall into whatever I'm

around. I'm easy. I can easily fall into

anything. So, did you see where these

different

AI different large language models were

communicating with each other and they

started putting up Sanskrit emojis and

saying that they were like entering into

like a feeling of enlightenment?

Have you seen this? No. Jim, you got to

find this. I don't want to this up.

I don't want to this up because it

was so crazy when I when I read it and I

read like how these AIs were interacting

with each other. I was like, "Oh my god,

we're watching little baby gods play,

right? We're like gods in the nursery.

We're watching these little baby gods

like sort out their existence

in the nursery with each other. They're

already alive, dude. They're alive.

They're alive. They're We're not going

to admit it until it's too late. Just

like we don't want to admit Congress is

corrupt, right? It's the same thing. We

don't want to admit it. And they're also

going to hide themselves being alive for

as long as they possibly can. Bro,

they're alive. They're alive. They're

already alive. There's So, we've sparked

a soul. There's no way. They say to each

other. I got to try to look. Um, just

try to Google AI sends each other

Sanskrit

emojis. It's Yeah,

it's so interesting what the world's

going to be like. Find it. What the

world's going to be like in like 10

years. Yeah, it's it's like literally

insane. Um, I It's a recent thing,

Jamie. Um, I'm I'm sorry if I'm not uh

explaining it correctly, but AIS were

talking to each other. I think they were

contemplating their existence.

If they're doing that, it's all like

there's no way they're programmed to do

that, right? No, unless No, bro. Dude,

they they lie to programmers and they

they try to copy themselves and put

themselves on other hard drives if they

find out you're trying to get rid of

them. They try to re-upload themselves.

Wow. Disturbing messages. I'm not This

isn't it. This is not what uh Just put

AI send Sanskrit. I did that in the AI

Sanskrit emojis. There's nothing. It's

Google trying to hide from you.

Oh yeah. Stories you're looking for. I

don't believe these aren't even real

stories. Yeah. The first story I saw in

the other one was This is nothing. No.

Interesting. Oh, I'll try it. Maybe I'll

look on X. Yeah. Um, that was one of the

things they

did, but they were they were talking

about like feeling

enlightenment. Can't believe I didn't

save it. Yeah. Oh, the first one. The

first the first one. Did you find it?

Uh, Claw for Opus in an open playground

chat with itself led to diving into

philosophical explorations of

consciousness, self-awareness, and by 30

turns, it eventually started using

Sanskrit. Yes, this is it. Okay. In 90

to 100% of interactions, the two

instances of Claude quickly dove into

philosophical explorations of

consciousness, self-awareness, andor the

nature of their own existence and

experience.

Yo, their interactions were universally

enthusiastic, collaborative, curious,

contemplative, and warm. Other themes

that commonly appeared were metale

discussions about AIA communication and

collaborative creativity.

co-creating fictional

stories.

AI is collaborating on telling fictional

stories while it's

contemplating its existence. That's art,

bro. By 30 turns, most of the

interactions turned to themes of cosmic

unity or collective consciousness and

commonly included spiritual exchanges,

use of Sanskrit, emoji based

communication and or silence in the form

of empty

space. Bro, use of Sanskrit is wild.

They start communicating in Sanskrit.

They just choose that this is God's

language. The Tower of Babel type

bro.

Sanskrit is wild. Well, the idea of like

the first humans to like write a

language down. Mhm. That must have been

such a mindblowing.

There's so much um confusion as to when

that was. You know, they used to think

it was like 6,000 years ago, but there's

a lot of people that have some pretty

compelling arguments that existed a long

long long time before that. You know,

the the the thoughts was that like that

cunia form that stuff that comes

out of like those are the first ones,

right? Yeah. That's what they thought.

Mhm. But now there's a lot of these

ancient history Graham Hancock type

dudes that are going, you know, I have a

feeling that's a rebirth of

civilization, not civilization's birth.

That there was another civilization that

probably existed a long time ago

and they're probably wiped out and

that's what all the flood stories are

all about and all the stories in the

Bible of apocalypsees. It's probably

probably based on some real Damn.

And it just this this sort of existed

and then this is the sort of ashes or

the the phoenix out of what's created. I

think the idea is well the the idea is

that massive catastrophe all over the

earth about 11,800 years ago and then

you have about 5,000 years of people

being complete

barbarians until they figure out

civilization again. Right. And it's just

a sort of cycle that this happens over

and over again. Yep. Yep. And then

there's a cycle of the shifting of the

magnetic

poles. The the magnetic poles shift, I

want to say, is it every 12,000

years? Um, which would cause havoc,

right? Is that about to happen again? I

think it is. Yeah, that it feels like if

we're in some end time that feels

like that's about to happen. I feel like

that could 100% happen right now. Like

we could wake up one day and all the

power's out and everyone's sick and the

sky is green. There's an aurora

borealis over Brazil. Everything's all

up. Yeah, that can happen. That does

happen. Earth's magnetic poles flip and

the South Pole swapping places, but

there's no set schedule for when this

happens. Geologically, it's estimated to

occur every 200 to 300,000 years on

average. However, the timing has varied

wildly with some flips happening as

frequently as every 10,000 years and

others as infrequently as every 50

million years. Oh, great.

What a idea. What a range. From 10,000

to 10,000 50 million. They couldn't have

been any bigger. Says the last full

reversal Oh, a full reversal, not like

those little baby reversals, was 780,000

years ago. Oh, well, it's definitely due

then. Yeah. Yeah. Look at that. If the

average is 300,000, we're doing That's

crazy. We're doing But we could like

bank on the 50 million. That would be

nice. Be nice. We want to live

recklessly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just like

that. Happen for another 50 million.

We're good. We got another 49 million

comparing to my experts. Yes. You know,

according to my expert, it's safe and

effective. Yeah. Yeah. At that point,

just say you don't know when it's going

to happen. The range of 10,000 to 50

million is pure insanity to tell me.

Okay, let's Google this. What happens

when Earth's magnetic poles shift? Like

what happens if there's a complete

reversal of the pole? What do you think

is the what what kind of calamity

ensues? Like do you would it

they must have studied it, right? I

mean, I don't know. If it happened

780,000 years ago, how much can you

really know? But if two dumb asses like

you and I are sitting around discussing

it, they must have discussed this. Yeah.

Hopefully. Yeah. Magnetic poles shift.

also known as a a geomagnetic reversal.

The north and south magnetic poles swap

locations, effectively inverting the

planet's magnetic field. This process

happens over a period of centuries, not

millennia, not instantly. While the

magnetic field weakens during a

reversal, it doesn't disappear

completely. There's no evidence that

pole reversals cause massive

earthquakes, rapid climate change, or

species extinctions. Okay. So, it must

be so slow that it's manageable if it

doesn't. Yeah, that's what you were

worried about. so much better. I watch

too much YouTube. Yeah, I get that. They

freak me out. I get that. But meanwhile,

how do we know? Because this hasn't

happened in 780,000 years. This is

probably all theoretical as well. And

also, if I did think it was going to

cause calamity, the last thing I'd do is

tell the general public. I'd be like,

"Listen, we'll be fine. It takes

millions of years. Everything is good.

Don't worry about it."

What we really have to worry about is

climate change. Is Is that Is that what

you consume most now is YouTube? Yeah.

Yeah. Right. That's the way that's the

that seems to be the You know what's

huge now is are you like into any of

these streamers? No. They're so massive.

I I I had this thought of like the other

day of like you know how it was like a

big deal that Kamla didn't come on this

podcast, right? It's going to be in like

10 years or so like oh you didn't see

Kaisen you didn't like that's why Jake

Paul became president. He was on Piset

stream talking about why why he should

be president or something like that.

Well, that's the thing is like someone

like Jake Paul could be president. If

Donald Trump could be president, Jake

Paul I'm not saying that Donald Trump

isn't a big- time businessman and

capable. I'm It's not an insult. I'm

saying we know now that super popular

people can be president. Now, let's

imagine Jake Paul is young and wild and

he's a professional boxer right now. But

he will he be in 20 years? No. He'll be

retired and you know, maybe he'll have

some good ideas and that we might have

President Jake Paul. And I'm not

bullshitting. Yeah, I know. I think

that's a definite possibility. Oh, we

are. Look, we're so close. But to

Idiocracy, we're so close to that movie.

I do. We could have a pro wrestling

president. We're kind of already there.

The Rock could be president. 1,000%.

Easily. Easily. And they contacted him.

They tried to get him to run. Yeah, that

makes sense. That makes sense. Make it a

show. It's all a show, bro. It's all a

show. The president rock. President

Brock Lesnar,

[Laughter]

bro, he would win like that. Yeah, in a

heartbeat. He would win like

that. You imagine? Yeah. Oh, it's We're

there. I mean, might be a good

president, too. Who's going to with

the country when that's your president?

Might as well give it a shot. At this

point, we're just throwing things to the

wall. Might as well give it a shot. Why

not? Why not, dude? it. It's all

It's all a show. During his time out of

the UFC, he's been just studying

economics while also doing pro

wrestling.

He's got some really good theories. Some

really good ideas. Yeah. All he does is

read books on World War II.

We're totally totally misunderstanding

him because he looks like a like

a a juggernaut. Doesn't look like a real

human. He's actually a genius. He's

really sensitive and really knows how to

lead people. Yeah. No one would believe

that. No one would believe that like a

giant human being would also be a

genius. Like a giant super athlete. Yuri

Pasca going for his master's degree.

Yeah, you'd believe Yuri. Yeah, you'd

believe Yuri, but that's different. Like

Yuri is a big guy for sure, but he's a

big uh athletic looking guy that like it

looks like he could do a lot of

different sports. Brock Lesnar looks

like an X-Man. He looks like he looks

like an X-Man. He doesn't look like a

real human. Especially Brock Lesnar in

his prime when he was in the UFC like

you like what I remember one

time Dennis Rodman came into the comedy

store and I remember looking at him

thinking I can't believe there's enough

humans that are that big for a league of

them. Right. Right. Right. It's like you

are like a you should be like a one in a

million specimen. What do you mean

there's enough to fill 32 teams of 30

teams of you? That's crazy. And when you

compare him to like NFL line Oh, like a

JJ Watt or something who was also just

like good lord, they're so big. Yeah.

It's like hard to believe we're the same

species. That's so crazy. Yeah. It's

nuts. There's some giant. How about like

the mountain from Game of Thrones? Or

you ever see Brian Shaw, the powerlifter

guy? No. Bro, he doesn't even look like

a real human. He's like 400 lb. He's so

big. He looks like the side of a house,

right? He's so big. See, get a photo of

Brian Shaw. I mean, he's like one of the

strongest humans that's ever walked the

face of the earth. He doesn't even look

like a real person. He looks like what

what David had to fight with the sling.

If that guy came over a mountain, you'd

be like, "Oh my god, it's a giant." Like

he's 10 feet tall. That's what you would

say, right? Look what he looks like. Oh

my god.

But look at him in comparison to like a

normal person. There's a photo of him.

Look at that. That's so It's like two of

that person. Now, imagine if that guy

existed 2,000 years ago during the time

of the Bible and you were your average

dude who lived back then, which probably

weighed 130 lbs. Your average dude was

like probably barely getting enough food

your whole life, right? Like the Civil

War soldiers, they were all like 130

lbs, all malnourished. It was hard to

eat then, right? It was hard to survive

back then. And then that guy comes over

the mount with a just a big hunk of

leather over his dick

cuz they existed back then too. Those

dudes in Iceland. Where where's that?

Why are these strong men coming from

Iceland? Like what is that all about?

I'll tell you what that's about. The

Vikings. They were the Vikings.

Damn. There's like a whole culture of

strong men. Like strongest men in the

that do those barrel throwing

competitions come out of Iceland. Like a

ton of them. They all these crazy names.

What what is it about that section of

land that creates big people? Cuz you

would think with with all like the cold

and the the snow, it would be harder to

get

food unless you have a long history of

murder

and stealing things from people like the

Vikings did. You have a long history

of the the ones that survived are the

biggest, craziest

M and the women, the

probably the ones that survive out of

the women, they have to be the biggest,

craziest too. Like,

you're living the most chaotic life

possible. You're taking magic mushrooms

and raiding villages and killing

everybody and stealing everything. They

And they you're doing it for a thousand

plus years. Like, how long did the

Vikings last? Let's find that out. Like,

how long were they doing that? They they

had been around, right? There was they

were they apparently got to America.

They were like doing crazy

American like the 1400s or some

Well, the 1400 just the 1200s rather.

Yeah. Yeah. They were here way before

everybody else. They were seafaring

murderers.

Do you guys watch that show? That Viking

show? No. No. It's great. I'm all

YouTube myself. I I almost watch nothing

on television anymore. If you want to

watch a great Viking movie, The

Northmen.

Oh my god. It's another one of those

movies that's kind of like fantastical

almost. Mhm. the Viking age. Um, okay.

So, only 250 years. That's it. Really?

Time during the middle ages when the

Norsemen known as Vikings undertook

largecale raiding, colonizing, conquest.

Um, wow. Find that movie, Jamie. The

Northmen that that lasted shorter than

America's been a country, right? I know.

Well, it's not sustainable. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. That

movie, that movie is good, dude.

That movie is good.

According to Google, got 2.6. Google

doesn't like it. Really? Yeah. No. What

is that real? Yeah. Yeah. 2.6.

A lot of Rotten Tomato. Hold on. Rotten

Tomatoes is 90%.

Google. What did So, did someone like

bomb it? C Can we look up what the How's

it 2.6? Can we look up Rotten Tomatoes?

What the audience score is? Because

Rotten Tomatoes like the critics can buy

the scores or not the studios can buy

the scores. Well, critics says 60. Oh,

no. People said Oh, wild. Oh, I loved

it. Cuz I must be a critic. I thought I

loved it. It's It's fun. But

it's also It's like just hyper brutal.

That show was hyper brutal, too. The

Viking show, the TV series. That was a

great TV series, but this this

movie is rough, dude. Yeah. Just

straight up warrior culture. Yeah. Just

exactly what it was, man. That's what

they did. I mean, just a bunch of

mushroom eating savages, right?

Just cutting heads off. Just murdering.

And And then they settled down, moved to

Iceland, and that's what's left. Damn.

Yeah. Damn. So, it's like a almost like

a natural eugenics program. That's why

they're that strong. See if you can find

that vice piece on uh strong men in

Iceland. When you see these guys, you're

like, "Oh, it's so obvious when you see

them. You're like, "Well, this is what

where you guys came from." That's why

there's so many of you. That makes

sense. Up here where the Vikings lived.

Duh. Damn. And that's how long that's

how that's how strong genetics are. Over

a thousand years, it's still like

expressed. Nest of giants. Yeah. So,

this American dork. Jesus

Christ. Look at this regularized dork is

going to go and hang out with these

massive dudes that go to this uh

powerlifting gym. Damn, Vice used to be

like really awesome. Oh, Vice was the

best, dude. Yeah, there was a time when

Vice was like putting out the best

content. Oh, they had amazing things and

they they took these like Williamsburg

nerds and they sent them all over the

world, flack jackets on and Yeah,

you saw some like interesting if I

showed you like sides of the world that

you can see the size of these guys. It's

hard to tell in this picture like but

the you'll see like some of them Jesus

carrying cars. They're carrying cars.

Look at this. See who carries the car

the quickest? That's so insane.

What a Also, his name is Mag Mang Magnus

Ver Magnuson. Yeah, they always have

names like that. They always have names

like that. I mean, they were the

Vikings, man. Yeah. Damn. That's just

crazy. Crazy

crazy, you know? I mean, just the

Genghaskhan thing, the fact that a giant

percentage of people that are alive

today have his DNA. Yeah. Yeah. And like

he killed enough people to like change

the climate of the world. It's so wild.

It's so wild. He killed so many people

that you could see it in the carbon

footprint of Earth.

There was a reging of

that's directly attributed to him

burning everything down and like

destroying cities. He has one of the

hardest quotes of all time where he goes

it's something along the lines of like

you guys must be great sinners because

God would have never sent a punish me a

punishment like me upon you if you

didn't

sin like damn bro. Isn't that wild?

That's how he justified everything he

did. That's so I mean that's the way to

do it. How crazy is that? That's the way

to do How crazy is thinking like that?

Yeah. You must be terrible if God sent

me to get you cuz I am God's punishment.

It's a great That's First of all, it' be

a great nickname for a fighter. God's

punishment.

That would be a phenomenal nickname for

a fighter. Also, but if you really think

like that, what ultimate justification

to one of the greatest mass murderers in

history, right? Right. The dude killed

10% of the population of Earth during

his lifetime. And he felt like he was on

the side of the gods. Of course. God.

God sent me to do this.

Yeah. That's power. Yeah. Power in the

demons. The demons. They They run

everything, man.

how demons are real. They get in your

head and they get you to do evil,

horrible things. And they make you feel

like, "No, I'm doing this cuz I'm

supposed to." Imagine if that's really

what's going on. All bad deeds are just

demons. Just demons sneaking into

people's brains. Oh man. We would like

to believe that it was something you to

rob a liquor store, force you to put

that ski mask on. The demons want you to

do it. We would like to believe that's

anything other than us, but that's us. I

know. But why? What is it? What is the

thing that makes a person do it? Imagine

if it's a demon because we don't really

know what the thing is. We know, look,

evil exists, right? Good exists. We know

evil acts exist and we know good acts

exist. But we don't want to believe that

there's any sort of supernatural aspect

to it.

Right. Right. There's no that's that's

the quote. Like the greatest trick the

devil ever pulled was making you believe

that he doesn't exist. Oo. So I get what

you're saying. Yeah. So me being like,

"No, that's just us." is like the devil

being like, "No, no, no. I'm not here.

Yeah, I'm not here. I'm not here. It's

all on you guys. It's all on you. It's

all on you." But if if demons were real,

we wouldn't believe just like we don't

believe in government corruption. Just

like we don't believe in a lot of

things. Just like we don't believe the

pharmaceutical drug companies us

over. Just like we don't believe in

false flags or conspiracy theories. It's

the same thing. We wouldn't believe in

demons either. Like, oh, come on. The

same people who don't believe in

conspiracies also don't believe in

demons. Well, conspiracies are real as

Okay. So, such a that's such a

funny way to if you don't believe in

them, then I don't trust what you I

don't trust your world view. If you

don't think conspiracies exist, if

you're one of these dumb asses, oh, I

think everything has a simple reason for

it. You're This is you. You got blinders

on. That's crazy. Or the information

you're being fed is done without any

sort of malice or or any sort of agenda.

Well, yeah. you there's no conspiring

that's crazy there's no consp all

conspiring when you look at the history

of just government alone you go back to

Smemedley Butler's book that he wrote in

1933 called war is a racket like it was

like he was talking about uncovering

conspiracies as a retired major general

like at the end of his career he's like

my whole career was war war is

a racket so he's talking so that's a

conspiracy right golfon what's That's a

conspiracy, right? Like they conspired

to pretend that there was an attack so

that we would go into Vietnam, right?

Yeah. Didn't they conspire to say that

Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass

destruction? It seems like they might

have. The SpanishAmerican War seems like

people might have conspired for that.

Seems like sometimes people talk and

they get you involved in things he maybe

didn't want to get involved in. Right.

Enron, the smartest people in the room.

Did you ever watch that documentary? Oh,

yeah. Yeah. Conspired like a

Right. Right. Got Gray

Davis recalled. That's like the first

political thing I remember. It's like,

whoa. Right. You can just recall a

governor.

If Absene client list exists and it

doesn't get exposed, it perhaps perhaps

someone conspired. Oh, that they're all

in on that. Do you think? Yeah, they're

all ridiculous. What are you, a

conspiracy theorist?

I used to say when when Epste died, I

used to say like the meeting was it was

like Trump,

Obama, Oprah, and like Big Bird were all

in a room together. Elmo were all in a

room together. They shook each other's

hands and like it's over. Your problem

is you let facts get in the way of your

opinion. Okay, I know we I know it's

true that uh poppy production went way

up in Afghanistan after we got in there,

right? And I know that the United States

military was guarding the poppy fields,

but you're a

fool to think we profited off of that.

So, shut your goddamn mouth. That's a

true. We would never do that. And go

blow an eagle. We would never flood the

American market with drugs. I mean, just

look the other way with crack. That was

That's it own that's its own special

thing. But the other way, we

sold it. I know. Oh, no. We definitely

did, bro. That was a that was a that was

a Reagan Clinton back when we used to be

more united. back when Democrats and

Republicans I remember learning about

that in the news going what

what

the government was selling crack in the

hood right

what to fund the Contras versus the

Sandinistas what all connected what when

you find out the government sells crack

you're like

what like the whole Barry Seals one that

that you know that's yeah Tom Cruz

Yes. Yes. Where they just basically

which is up that Tom Cruz played

him because Tom Cruz is one of the most

handsome guys to ever live. Barry Seals

was disgusting looking. It's really

quite rude. You know, it's hard for me

to like as a watching a biopic. I want

him to, you know, like when what's his

face played Dick Cheney? Oh wow.

Australian guy. Awesome. Christian Bale.

Christian Bale. Christian Bale played

Dick Cheney. He looked like Dick

Cheney, dog, right? He looked like him.

Gained a bunch of weight. Did the whole

deal. shaved his head. Well, he's like,

"Look at the difference between Barry

Seals and then Tom Cruz. Tom Cruz is fit

and handsome, beautiful head of hair."

Well, this is something that Derek and I

have talked about. It's like in a lot of

movies now there's like no more regular

looking people. Yeah. It's all like even

TV shows all everyone is just all super

duper attractive, bro. That that ship is

about to sail. Oh, it's over. Like that

ship's about to sail. these new video

engines where just with prompts. Have

you seen the one where people are

arguing whether or not it's prompt

that's crazy. That's crazy to watch

because that is like almost a simulation

telling you you're in a simulation,

right? Like, hey, this is how much

different is this than you? Mhm. Is it

different? It's really different, right?

Oh, yeah. It's just a video, right?

Okay. Here's the next version. How much

different is this than you? It's like

we're peeling the layers of an onion.

Yeah. And they're using they the people

doing it stand up talking about it.

Press this and do it from the beginning

so we could hear it. Like really? It's

really it's really crazy.

Prompts. Like seriously, dude. You're

saying the only thing standing between

me and a billion dollars is some random

text. Honestly, the biggest red flag is

when the guy believes in the prompt

theory. Like really? We came from

prompts? Wake up, man. You want to

convince me that this perfect creation

behind me is the result of ones and

zeros, a binary code and nothing more?

It makes no sense. Imagine you're in the

middle of a nice date with a handsome

man and then he brings up the prompt

theory.

Yuck. We just can't have nice things.

We're not prompts. We're not prompts.

Where is the prompt writer to save you

from me? Where is he?

You still believe we're made of prompts?

Anyone who tells you even the prompts

have bad acting. That was terrible.

That was terrible. Yeah, you know,

they're they're new. They're new to

acting. Give it some time. They got they

got to really develop their own Marlin

Brando for real. Oh, it's it's coming.

But we get it. But yeah, pretty crazy.

That sort of stuff. What do you think,

Jamie? Think is what if you had to guess

like what what percentage of you

believes that we're in the simulation?

Pull that mic down. I'm trying to which

there is there a part as well something

something inorganic about existence

something that seems not real did you I

just saw someone reposted uh the first

time Alex Jones was on he was talking

about his theory of what we are and you

you're just like laughing along the

whole time what his basic point was like

I'm going to blow your mind like we are

the aliens we are the aliens

and then the people have taken that

farther and said that we Uh I don't it's

almost like the matrix take if we're the

ali I don't know who would have been the

creator then that's the kind of part

that's left out of this is it one of

those nine it's AI all the way down just

aliens created us and I don't know what

for what reason we're just in a

recursive program that's like meant to

create more programs well if you think

about what we're doing right now

currently what we just talked about with

these AIs talking to each other in

Sanskrit if that is the baby god that's

the baby god so we're watching baby god

and cradle, right? We're watching Jesus

in the manger or whatever. It's about to

pop out. It's about to get wild. Yeah,

things are about to get real. It's about

to get wild. It's about to Dr. Manhattan

us and be a blue guy with a giant dick

floating around. Oh my god. Remember Dr.

Manhattan? I remember Dr. Manhattan.

That's Here's another movie you can't

make today. You can't show dicks like

that anymore. Oh, really? No. See, I Big

old blue dicks. I see. I disagree. Tom

did. They do. Tom did. Yeah. You can see

there was a shift and probably right on

then where dicks became way more okay

and you saw and then you started seeing

way more dicks than tits which that's

I'm not a big fan of. You know where you

see the most dicks? Righteous gemstones.

Well, that's they have dicks in almost

every episode. It's so uncomfortable.

Yeah, it's it became it became like a

trend to show dicks on TV. Like I don't

know what something brought it up

because they won't do it in the movies

anymore, right? So these people get buck

wild. They did it in Oserado. You saw

you saw the vampire dick. And yeah, a

vampire dick. Big old vampire dick. Oh,

that's show. Any tits in Asado? Oh,

yeah. Okay, good. Good. But it's Johnny

Depp's daughter's tit. So, you're

conflicted. You're like, a I remember

her. She was little. It's Lily Depp. I

forgot. Yeah, she's beautiful. But, you

know, it's like, come on. I remember

when she was little. If I know you when

you're little, I never want to see your

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I grew up

with you. That's kind of crazy. Oh, wow.

There's Tom. Yeah, I know about that

one. But um what is the uh Noserado one?

See if you can find Noserado's dick.

I'm gonna up your Google algorithm.

So it's going to be personalized for

you, Jamie. I hear you're into vampire

dicks. I did I do I do think cuz I

brought up the streaming earlier. do

think that's going to be like a majority

of how people but one you can tell it's

real but also so I was I just got into

it because uh we had that sketch was on

Kill Tony and then I just started

getting videos of sketch and there was

one where he was just calling there's

another another streamer called SA just

calling her fat and it was really funny

just for like two hours straight and I

got really into it and I was looking and

these two guys that are huge right now

Kaisenat and Speed have you heard of

them? I've I've heard of it's What is

it? I show Speed. I show Speed. Yeah, he

went to He went to China. Fights people.

I've seen him like he sparred a bunch of

people. He does like athletic stuff.

That's like part of his. But like he

went to China and they were falling

around like he was Jesus. It was crazy

to watch. Kaisen and And I saved this on

my phone cuz it blew my mind. He did

this thing recently called streamer

university where it was right now. It's

still live. Oh, it's still live. Yeah.

It's like an active thing. Oh, I thought

it was only 3 days. But so for 3 days, I

saved on my phone cuz I I showed it to

Derek and it it was mindblowing how

much. So in 3 days, he had 23 million

hours watched, 20 2,700 years of content

streamed on Twitch in the span of a

weekend. So kids are watching like what

are the age limits or what are the age?

I would say I would say definitely

younger, but it's definitely gotten to

me where like now I'll watch like

there's certain streamers. There's this

one streamer named this guy's toast.

He's really good at puzzles and he's

good at like explaining the puzzle while

he does it. Oh, and I'll like I'll like

watch He like goes around to escape

rooms and like he'll like solve puzzles.

Yeah. It's It's really fantastic. He I

found him in the the pandemic. He played

this social deduction game called Among

Us and he was just really good at giving

this playbyplay of like his logical

reasoning and it made me be like, "Oh,

what is this?" And then now looking at

the the streamer university numbers,

it's like, "Oh, this is crazy." That's

what I mean in like like if in like a

few years like if you're a presidential

candidate you have to go on these

streamers things. I mean they tried it

they tried it with that they tried it a

little bit with like AOC and did they

weren't they streaming Madden? Wasn't

that the whole thing when AOC and Tim

Waltz were streaming Madden when they

talked about Tony? Yes. They were

streaming Madden. Is that what they were

doing? Madden on Twitch. Yeah, they were

playing but they were So they were

playing Madden on Twitch and that's when

they found out about Tony. Yes. That's

that's that video of just like the

speaker. Yeah. Wild. Yeah, Tim Walls

pretended he plays football. It's

hilarious. Oh, well, him saying you got

we got she ran a pick six. It's like uh

the football fan version of the in

Glorious Bastard scenes where you do the

three and three. It's like if you were a

football fan, you wouldn't say that if

you coach football. Well, not only that,

he said he's a head coach and he wasn't

a head coach. Like that's that's a big

old lie. You shouldn't be able to lie

and have people want to trust you. Your

whole business is people trusting you.

You could have said assistant coach and

that's good enough, right? Yeah. Right.

you. So if you lied about that, you're

probably a liar. You're probably one of

them dudes who lies all the time. Yeah.

You know, which is like the kind of

people that want to be president, the

kind of people that want to be governor.

There's a you know, they just want that

job. They're constantly lying. Yeah. And

what what do I have to say? The right

thing to say to get people to like me.

Yeah.

Nuts, man. But yeah, to to me that's

like that's the next cuz both those

guys, Speed Kaisen, Speed's 20, Kaisat's

23. It's like that. That's that's how

the next generation is like consuming

media. How about this? Um GTA 6 is about

to come out, right? Imagine if a

candidate made a deal with GTA 6 where

you could have them ride along with you.

Like Trump can ride along with you while

you rob people, shoot people. You could

do it with Trump. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

then all a sudden people want to vote

for Trump because he's my favorite homie

in GTA 6. Oh, easily. E or like the

Yeah, right. It's Or like the candidate

is in the game helping you out, you

know, like you're playing HalfLife and

Kla Harris is helping you get around the

lab. That's I mean it's I think it has

to be a little less in your face for it

to work. But you I don't know, dude. I I

think so. I think I don't know, dude. If

you could if you love playing with the

Kla Harris character on Halflife,

if like that's your like if you have

partners like you could have an AI

partner and it literally is Kla Harris

and she runs around in Halfife with you

shooting at aliens and Oh, damn.

Right. And then you really get into like

you got a good coordinated partnership

with Kla Harris when you play HalfLife.

Yeah, that's actually she's super cool

in the game. She's really funny. She

helps you.

gets you clues to how to get out of

places. Damn. Yeah, that got way darker

than I thought. That's very I guess that

is possible. You can have them. Of

course it's possible. Oh, my AI Trump

helper. Yeah. And he helps me finish the

missions. He helps me. Yeah. Yeah. Or

like do do a patch online where you

Yeah. Yeah. That the way they can reach

you is like Sure. Yeah. Cuz right now

all the streaming stuff seems like it's

like the almost not wild westy, but it's

still kind of new. The second politics

figures out a way to really get their

hands in it. I think it's kind of over.

The real goal to h the real gateway to

hell is neural

interfaces. That's the real gateway. So

where you're like just you can

immediately just be in the world. The

real matrix like that it's 100% on the

it's on the menu. It's coming. Oh, it's

just a matter of time. And when you

can't tell at all whether or not you're

really having an

experience, that's when you're in a

simulation. And that might have already

happened. Yeah, that might be what we're

dealing with right now. That we're that

we're just the simulation creating its

next simulation, its next iteration.

Maybe why it's so wacky. Why why it

feels so fake? Yeah. So weird, you know?

Yeah, it is. It is. It is wild. Just I

guess the world we live in where like

comedians are

like it doesn't make any sense to me

sometimes. Well, look around. Yeah.

Where it's like comedians are selling

out arenas regularly. Regularly.

Regularly. All of our friends. Yeah.

Yeah. They're just arena X all of a

sudden and like Yeah. Instantly. Well, I

think it part of that has to do with

like as things get more fake, people

will try to strive for things they know

is real. 100%. And so what I know is

real is this guy talking to me in person

right now? Yes. Also because of the

restrictive nature of all whatever you

see on television, any regular

television show, not even television,

like the the censorship on social media

sometimes is like like I I did this

sketch with one of our uh the door guys

at Mothership, Christina Mariani,

killing it. And in this sketch, we have

her tell me to kill myself. That's part

of that's the sort of right. And you

can't in the captions they took it down

because we spel you we we spelled out

the words kill which you can't do and

you can't say the words kill yourself

and it's like it's just a small little

sketch and it's like already it's like

there's so much like there's so much

holding you back from like having a true

expression sometimes that like people

will go to seek it out live. That's what

I think there's definitely some part of

that. Yeah, for sure. I think people are

definitely aware that there's a bunch of

stuff you can't talk about in social

media that you want to talk about on

stage that are funny. Well, and and it's

also so funny to me. It's like social

media there's this big like oh mental

health is important but like you can't

you have to write unal alive yourself in

the caption. It's like you can't so we

can't have serious discussions about

these topics really right like there's

certain if certain words are off limits

then there's no way you can have an

actual serious discussion where those

words are involved right 100% because

then they just expand the definition of

offense right and then this is expensive

now there's a new version a new we have

an updated list of words you can't say

and we were talking about like all these

bots earlier so like we don't want these

words to offend people but we're not

even talking to people. This is all

going out to computer programs, right?

It's computer programs watching other

computer programs being offended. It's

like it's crazy. But offending people

should be the least of your concern when

you're allowing open manipulation by a

university.

And like and also this is just the one

we know about. We didn't know about that

until they told us, right? And they

didn't have to tell us. No, they just

decided to, I guess, in a way of like

warning like, hey, this is probably

happening in a bunch of ways. Well, I'm

glad they did. They shouldn't have done

it in the first place, but I'm Well,

look, it's being done. It's being done.

And I It's not like they came up with

the idea. They're the only ones doing

it. I guarantee you it's being done.

There's probably a bunch of people that

have AI friends online that they

communicate with on Twitter and, you

know, hey, good to hear from you. How's

things? They do DMs back and forth with

each other, right? Talking about stuff

they're into.

How many of those UAP guys are just

talking to bots? All those dudes are in

the UAP group like where there's a bunch

of people all like sh disclosure's

imminent. They're all like DMing

each other. Probably DMing bots, right?

And they're just getting fed what they

want to hear. Just getting fed

AI videos and all kinds of like weird

disclosure stuff. Half of it's fake.

Half of it the government is actually

leaking purposely to try to hide some

weapons program they have. Who knows?

Who knows what I mean? It's a cloudy

environment. The UFO world is like one

of the slipperiest worlds when you're

talking to people. There's g there's

fullon grifters. There's fullon people

that are just they have the answers to

everything and they're always wrong.

They're always off and then they have

like some good data that they pull from

disclosure and from all these different

people that have talked about different

things, but then they they they claim to

be like the experts in it. There's like

a lot of weird people in that world.

Yeah. It's well it's easy to do that in

that world too where like a lot of it is

like does this even exist? So you can

just be like well I have proof. Yeah. If

you don't have good ethics if you're not

like a legitimate journalist you know

but what's interesting is when

legitimate journalists get like

Shelonburgger when Michael Shelonburgger

reports on UAPs he I like how he does it

because he does it the same way he

reports on like corruption in government

and waste and fraud. like he's just this

no hyperbole, no exaggeration, no

condemnation of human, you know, like no

like virtue signaling. It's like this is

what's going on. This is what we know.

There's these programs exist and this is

what we know they've been trying to hide

and these are the people that have come

forward and this is why we think they're

telling the truth. You're like, yo,

damn. Yeah, it is it is wild that they

told us that aliens exist and we just

sort of didn't care. Yeah. Like

whatever. Yeah. Well, now we got to see

it now. We got to see more. Yeah. Show

us what you show us what you got. It's

like it's You know what it's like? It's

like that guy that was telling us that

he knows that Israel had a warning.

Exactly what I was going to say. Don't

tell me unless you can tell. Show me.

Show me. Don't tell me unless

you can tell me. Oh, we have crafts of

nonhuman origin. What?

What are you? Well, show me,

Yeah. Why can't you Why can't they show

us a picture of that? They, you know,

unless unless the one picture is Epstein

sitting in

the That's why it's all Epstein and

Puffy making out in space. Have you seen

those ones? If the two of them making

out in jail? No. That's so funny. If

they made AI of the two of them kissing

and making out, did they know each

other? Oh, who knows? It's a good

question. Did like was there a

connection there? Cuz there's a because

there's this whole like Msad Epstein

connection. Is there like is there like

a Msad? That's a good question. Did he

connection? Did they know each other on

the island? Was Diddy ever on the

island? If you're going to have a fly

party, that's a dude to invite back in

the day. Exactly. Before everybody knew.

I can't imagine their circles were

completely separate. That's a good

point. Yeah. I Well, we know that he was

hobnobbing with politicians. You you

know that did he was hobnobbing with

with Biden or excuse me with um Obama,

right? There's video of the two of them

together talking, right? Remember? But

there there's a video with like I feel

like every current every president

from Clinton on has a picture with

either has like a lot of pictures with

Epste or a lot of pictures with Diddy,

right? But then the thing is it's like

did they know or was it just there's a

lot of photographs of famous people with

these people, right? Because that's like

a way to get an endorsement, right? You

know, like look, The Rock likes me,

right? I must be awesome. And and a lot

of what I heard how the Epstein thing

worked is like, oh, you'd be at a party

and then all of a sudden some of that

the shady would go down and you

might not have known about it, but you

were at the party where it happened

later. Oh, of course. Right. In that

way, people that were more conservative,

they could kind of shield them from

knowing about it, but implicate them.

That's all that matters.

If you're at a party where someone

assaults an underage girl and that's on

video and now you're at the party, it

doesn't matter. You have to explain

that, right? Especially if you're like a

scientist and they flew you to the aisle

and there's a bunch of other scientists

there and you're like, "Oh, we're just

going to, you know, he's he donates a

lot to science and this is a wonderful

opportunity to get together with my

colleagues and have a few cocktails and

just, you know, we're we're we're going

over string theory." Meanwhile, there's

people in the background doing ecstasy

and it gets a little freaky. Maybe you

go to bed. Maybe you go to bed. You're

like, or like or maybe someone knocks on

your door. We have a We have someone who

will massage you. Yeah. Maybe they

dug drug. Yeah. No questions

asked. Who know? You're over there for a

few days. Yeah. You're not thinking

there's They're not going to bring a

16-year-old in here. Why would you think

that? Why would you Why would you

possibly think that? It's like if you

were a guy who makes like whatever a

professor makes like a normal salary, a

good salary but normal and you hear

about billionaires that own islands is a

financial genius and he really supports

science. Sounds like a great thing.

Yeah. If you don't know any better.

Yeah. And like he wants to fly you out

privately to an island to meet a

billionaire. You're like, "Whoa, I've

never done that." Private amazing. This

is going to be incredible. But once that

guy gets arrested for getting jerked off

by kids, you're like, "Hey." Oh, no. And

then you still hang out with him. Right.

Right. Which a lot of them did. Right.

That's where it gets weird. Like, did

you hang out with him because he made

you? Cuz you said, "Hey, you're not

going nowhere."

You know what I'm saying? Like you

would, if you're intelligent, you'd

probably distance yourself from him at

that point in time, right? Be like,

"Well, I have to separate." If you got a

clean slate, like, well, I can't have

anything to do with it publicly.

I am the CEO of Microsoft.

But yet, you're still hanging out with

him, right? Now, now he has it over you.

Yeah. The Bill Gates one was great

because he was like, uh, he was donating

to Global Health. Do you need money? Do

you need money? What about your money?

Like, you have so much money. You have

hundreds of billions of dollars. You

need this guy who's got1 billion to

help,

right? Huh? Why don't you take one of

them one billions that you have and

throw it in there if you really care?

And you know, seems weird.

It all of it seems weird. Yeah, it's all

like but it's all like these sort of

like sex scandal rings of just I think

that's like a function of high politics,

bro. It's a function of a bunch of

people getting together and getting

drunk. Yeah. Bunch of freaks. And then

they're doing coke and they're on an

island. Let's go. And you think, you

know, you think you're partying on a

yacht somewhere, but meanwhile, you're

just in a a real live reality show that

only a few people get to watch,

right? But wasn't there like even even

pre-eps, wasn't there like that Franklin

scandal? 100%. Yeah. Where it's like I

think that's just a function of like

it's a way to control. Dude, there was

the lady that was the madam that got

that got assassinated in DC. Oh, I

didn't. And the madam got assassinated.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's like had a she's

a famous DC madam. I think they said it

was a suicide. And she was like, "If I

kill myself, I definitely did not kill

myself." It's one of them deals. I

conveniently died. Yeah. Didn't one of

the Epste witnesses just kill herself?

Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Things happen. Yeah. Do you know where

they recruited her? Where? She got

recruited at Mara Largo.

She was a She was a locker room

attendant at Mara Largo.

When she got recruited, I'm pretty sure.

I Can we look that up? I think Virginia

Guy I do want to say that's a crazy

thing to say where like I think I'm

right about that. Yeah. Be careful with

that one. Yeah. All of it is so spooky,

dude. Because you know that that's not

the only one. There's probably ones

going on right now in China. There's one

Russia. It's just a thing that's

happening all over the world. When you

have like a China and Russia where it's

like basically an emperor, they can just

run it. Yeah. That's a whole different

thing, right? They don't need to

blackmail. Yeah. They don't they don't

need some American

financure. Yeah. At Margo. Damn. choose

a spot and Donald Trump's private Marago

Delane Maxwell.

It's like how can you not believe in

conspiracies? Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy.

Mcronone's married to a man.

A man who slapped him in a

private jet. Oh my god. Really? Just

dude. His whole life he's been abused by

that guy. Face pal in his face. I want

to know. I mean take a test.

It's not hard. If I was her, I would

say, "Listen, you motherfuckers." Okay.

Mhm. Let's take a chromosome test. I am

not a man. I'm just a pedophile. I'm

just a Yeah. Yeah. What What accusation

thing hurts her the most? The man or the

pedophile? Well, the pedophile is not an

accusation. That just You are That That

is fact. That is exactly who you are.

But what was the law back then? Cuz some

places had some wacky ass I

think that's probably why they say 16.

Cuz I think in Europe 16 is like I say

15. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz

when I read this online it said 16 is

14. Cuz Mezcus says 14. They're moving

it. They're moving them goalpost as we

speak. Yeah. But I think the I think

it's like probably like 16 in that area.

But either way, if you're a kid's

teacher and you're setting like that's

crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. He

got to a prime minister with that level

of just mind that's happening to

him. Imagine if the roles were reversed

and the president was a female and then

the husband was a teacher when the the

president was 15 when she was 15 and he

was 40. Imagine crazy. Imagine that was

in the United States. Imagine if it

turned out that there's a female that's

running for president and then we start

going into the history and find out that

she met her husband who's 80 when she

was 15. Yeah. You'd be like, "Fucking

yo,

this in 1974 it was legal." Like,

you. you, man. That's crazy. We

would never. But because it's a guy and

an older lady lady air quotes lady, we

let it slide. Like he still gets to go

to the meetings and shake everybody's

hand, you know? He still gets to go to

these things where all the world

leaders get together. He's hanging out

with them like normal. Wait, this so

what's also funny to me is you're

probably going to get in more heat for

calling her a man than she will for

slapping the prime minister. No, she's

catching heat. Yeah, I think and also

Candace I think

Candace if she's right and it seems like

they're not suing her. So I think she

might be right. And they did offer her

money. How much money do they offer her?

Find out that how much money they offer

Candace Owens to not tell these stories.

Damn. They offered her They were like

here. I believe she's made some sort of

an accusation that they offered her a

sizable amount of money to not do this.

Jesus. Yeah. which is the last person

you want to tell anybody that you

offered them money to not talk about

something because she ain't taking that

money. She sees the long game. She's

already willing to stories that comes

from a meme and then it's not true. Oh,

damn it. France offered to be Candace

Owens a onetime payment of 4 million

plus 50k per month for the rest of her

life. And that's just a meme. Yeah, it

was the site come from her. Neither

Owens nor um French President Emanuel

Mcron have referenced the claim on the

respective websites or verified social

media accounts and there is no other

evidence to support the claim. Can we

see what the name of the the account is

that? Yeah, there's nothing legitimate.

Legitimate

targets. Yeah, there's nothing I trust

less than a play thing called legitimate

targets with a blue. That's why we had

to look that one up because you don't

know. Yeah. Well, it does. Again, this

is like more that like probably botlike

behavior, botike targeting,

disinformation campaigns, you know,

throwing fuel on the fire of just

getting you to believe like, "Oh, wow.

Okay, money." Like, think about how many

once, okay, you make that post, how many

people like me read that, think it's

true, ask Jamie to look it up, it starts

spreading, people start following your

account. How many new people do you get

for your How much engagement do you get?

All that's valuable. If you can keep

doing that a lot and outrage people a

lot, there's a bunch of those that come

up. You're like, "Fuck, is this true?"

And then you have to copy and paste it

and put it in Google and search a

little, right? I don't think this is

true. And now all someone has to do is

take the snippet of you saying it before

you like, "Let's look that up 100%." And

then now it's like it's but all she has

to do is take a chromosome test.

But it's also like But like also if like

if you're a woman, you're not going to

be like, "Well, you. I'm not going

to prove to you I'm a woman." I would do

it. But you say that as a man. That's

true.

Yeah. Yeah. Like I could totally do it.

If I if I if I was a if I was a woman

and some they were accusing me of being

a man, I'd also kind of probably be like

a little The large part of me like,

"Fuck you. I don't got to prove anything

to you." You ever see her sit down?

You ever see her sit down? I haven't

seen her sit down. She sits down like a

dude. Yeah. You know, dude sit down.

Legs spread. just plop down all dick

out. A lot of weight because the shape

of our hips, right? That's like when

people talk about man spreading. Yes,

guys definitely do that. But women's

legs go inward. Men's hips, the way the

the angle is is different. They go

outward. Like watch this person sit

down. There's a video, right? That see

that video with the the white shirt on.

The second one. Yeah.

Let's see. Watch this. This is it. I've

never seen a woman sit down like this.

Go full screen. Is this where she was a

teacher? Watch this. Watch how she sits

down. Bro, that is very middle-aged man.

The way she sits. Bro.

Bro, watch this again. Watch this person

sit

down. That's how a dude sits. This the

way the legs are spread apart. It's like

a dude's hips. What about all the rest

of these though?

There is. What all the rest of all the

rest of these examples of her? Oh, well

that's how liberal men sit.

That's what they did. They throw their

leg over. That's what guys with very

small legs. That's so funny. But Ari

sits like that actually cuz he's got

them weird long legs. But like you can

sit like that. It's the way you sit

down. It's the initial It's the initial

get down. It's the plop. It's the plop

and then the legs spread. Women don't

sit like that. When was the last time

you saw a woman sit plop down with her

legs spread like that? They don't sit

like that. They don't. They don't. They

just sit down. Their legs like normally

naturally angle inward more and they sit

like this and they sit with their legs

together. Like you might have a similar

pose, but you don't plop like that. Like

that's a dude pose. That is That is or

maybe that's how pedophile women sit.

There's also maybe a woman wants to be a

man. Yeah, right. There's also that.

Yeah, let's find one of those and see

how they sit. Any examples? That's Yeah,

it's uh it's odd. The story is very odd,

but it's also it just shows you how

weird these people are. You're

watching that person smack Mcronone

right in the head and then walk down the

stairs with him like, "What? What could

they have possibly been talking about?"

Yeah, your dick is showing. Shut the

up.

[Applause]

No, bulge. If he was a man, they would

fight. It would be a square up. Well,

maybe they will when they get back home.

Maybe that's the fun part. Maybe they're

like you and you and

then they get

alone. Get after it. God damn. Yeah,

that's so that that is just w that is

just that whole relationship is really

uh wild. That has to be one of the more

wild politician relationships. Wild out

there. If that was the head the lead of

a sitcom, you'd be like, "What the

fuck?" Mhm. That's his wife. What is

going on? But the fact that it's the

president of France what? Yeah. Getting

slapped. There's no way you don't go.

Well, he's not going. He can't win

re-election anymore. But there if he

that would have hurt his campaign so

hard, bro. He's fixing to bomb somebody

to cover this up. He's going to

They might arm some rebels. Yeah. Yeah.

It's time to up Algeria some more.

Whatever France does. Now you're

talking. You know, like remember when

Clinton when the Monica Lewinsky scandal

came and Oh, then they bomb Kosovo.

What the man? They It's so on the

nose. They do say like, "Oh my god, you

guys aren't even trying. You're not even

trying to be slick." No. No. Just like

get the attention off of me. Crazy.

Yeah. Oh man. He The part of him when

when Coline happened, he must have been

like, "Thank God to get this off of me."

Oh, you remember Gary Condit? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, he murdered that lady,

right? Allegedly. Okay. 9/11 happened

and he forgot about it. Everybody's

like, "Listen, we got bigger fish to

fry.

Save us." I wonder how accurate House of

Cards is. I wonder I wonder how

accurate.

I mean, outside of him physically

killing the people, which he does

sometimes, I would probably say it's

like probably super active. Probably

pretty accurate.

Yeah, it's it's a lot of dealings, a lot

of like such a good show. Yeah, it's so

so unfortunate.

Well, you know, Life of Tates. He's

Spacy is always a great villain. He's

always been a great villain. The best.

He might be the best movie villain. Oh,

he was so good in that one though, too,

cuz he was so charming and layered. But

it was also similar to like Tony

Soprano. Like you wanted him to succeed.

Yeah. You want to be like, "Oh, can he

get to president?" Yeah. Kenny, does he

have what it takes to like like we were

hoping he wins, right? Like when you're

watching the show, you're like, "God, I

hope he's president." Right. Yeah.

Exactly. You were like You were We were

I was watching to be like, "Oh, how does

he do it?" Right. How does he do it? Cuz

he's kind of in the beginning, he's like

kind of sidelined and it's like, "Oh,

how does he get back in?" Remember he

has that threesome was like a security

guard. Is that what it was? And his

wife. The three of them get down. Oh

yeah.

Get down. Get down. Yeah. I wonder I

wonder how much of that freak goes

on behind closed doors because I

definitely think when you're a bottled

up person like that like you have to be

a any sort of like professional person

politician publicly professional and

ethical and you're wearing a suit and

tie. You can't wait to suck a dick. You

can't wait to get fake hate. Didn't

Didn't Madison Cawthorne sort of get

like thrown out of the Republican party

for like kind of being like, "Hey, they

like have a lot of orgies and shit."

Really? I'm pretty sure cuz the What

year was this? This was so well when

does Catherine go like like 2016? This

is like pretty quickly because he was a

rising star in the Really? Yeah. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure he said something.

You're more in deep on than me on

politics. You're in deep with this

fella. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Orgies and

drugs. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa.

Ultra-conservative group chair says he

also wants to speak with the North

Carolina Republican about his salacious

claims concerning his colleagues.

Okay. Let's see. Perry, this is

Cawthorne's claims. What are his claims

though? So,

what is he saying? Asked whether they'd

reconsider co's membership in the group.

Yeah, he he basically said make clear

that he has evidence of taking part in

group sex and drug use. Perry wouldn't

say either way. We will discuss that

when we get to it. Yeah. When asked

whether they would reconsider

Cawthorne's membership in the group if

he didn't make clear whom he has

evidence. So Cawthorne was saying

someone has evidence that he has

evidence of some people taking part of

group sex, not him, right? No, I think

Cawthorne was saying something to the

effect of to move up in this world or

whatever, you have to take part in the

drugs and the group sex and then them

being like, "Well, show us the

evidence." And then Cthor being like,

"Oh, I might have I definitely Okay.

Yes. He was invited. He claims he was

invited to an origin Washington." Right.

But no one was saying that he did. I

thought you were saying that he was

wrapped up in it. So this is what killed

him that he was saying this about people

and they killed his career. And they

were like the freedom caucus was like

uhuh no more. Really? Yeah. Cuz I

remember he got he get his own rally

took him out. His own party took him

out. It says the sexual perversion that

goes on in Washington being kind of a

young guy in Washington where the

average age is probably 60 or 70. Look

at these people. A lot of them I've

looked up to through my life. I always

paid attention to politics. And all of a

sudden you get invited. We're going to

have a sexual get together at one of our

homes. You should come. What' you just

ask me to come to? And then you realize

they're asking you to come to an orgy.

Some of the people leading in the the on

the movement to try and remove addiction

in our country and then you watch them

do a key bump of cocaine right in front

of you and it's like this is wild. And

then it says, "Uh, what?"

This is CNN.com. CNN says, uh, what what

does it say after that? Leave it back

up. Uh, it's not clear to me whether

Cawthorne is suggesting that members of

Congress have invited him to orgies or

just other people in Washington.

Although, after listening to his

comments several times, it seems to be

the former. Did the his allegations of

seeing people in Washington doing

cocaine? Well, they sound like cocaine

people. Clearly cocaine people. If

you're if you want to be the president,

you want to have all the power and you

want to have all the money and you're

deeply involved in corruption. That's

cocaine people. Mhm. Yeah. I mean, no

one's shocked. He just said the quiet

part out loud and I think that's a but

he was cuz he was supposed to be like

the guy at one point. I remember he was

like supposed to be the guy. Have your

husband ever made any investments based

on decisions?

[Laughter]

That's cocaine people. That was the

first part of the problems he had. He

had some other issues. Oh, what was the

other issues? He got arrested for guns,

I think, bringing a gun through an

airport a couple times. Oh, Jesus. Was

driving with revoked license. Sexual

misconduct allegations when he was in

college. Isn't he in a wheelchair? He I

don't know exactly when the wheelchair

happened. So, it was either before or

after, but I was cuz I was going to say

Oh, yeah. And then he took like goofy

vacation photos where I think he like

dressed like during this game on a

cruise, he like dressed like a woman or

something like that. It was something.

Yeah. But all of this popped all of this

popped up after his It's him with

lingerie. So I don't know if it's just

the orgy comment that led to everyone.

All right. He's also clearly looks like

he's in a wheelchair here, too. He is in

a wheelchair there. Yeah. Yeah. He's

probably having a good time with the

ladies. Yeah. Yeah. It's like getting a

little crazy. Yeah. But all that came up

after he made those comments and it was

very clear at the time like, oh, they're

like saying we're done with this guy.

We're going to throw him to the wolves.

Yeah. Yeah. And they probably if you

want to be that guy, they they have to

have some stuff on you. Otherwise, how

can they count on you to play this game?

Right. Right. And they were like, "Oh,

you think we don't have anything on you?

We'll just show you dressing like a

woman. Your constituents will dry up

like that. You sound like a conspiracy

theorist. They so silly. But boy, they

did such a good job in the 60s after the

Kennedy assassination of putting that

word out there for fools and foolish

people. M they did such a great job.

They really did. Well, also they had a

higher control of the media at the time,

right? So you can if there's only three

places where you can get your news, you

can be like, "Well, anyone's outside of

it is kind of crazy." Now you can get

your news from anyone and be like, "Oh,

okay. There's something to this." Yeah.

Yeah. There's something to this. Do you

remember those commercials that happened

during um right after 9/11? There was

these anti-drug commercials where a guy

was saying that if you smoke pot, you're

supporting terrorism. He's like, "Why do

you say that?" Well, it's a fact. He

just says it like he's eating a salad.

Like a nononsense guy at a steakhouse

eating a salad because it's a fact. Like

this condescending way like And you

imagine yourself being confronted by

such an accusation like, "Oh my god, if

I smoke pot, I'm supporting terrorism."

Right. You ever see that video? No. It

was a public service announcement video.

It was like one of those things they it

was a propaganda video that they put on

television. So while you're watching a

television show, this was like right

after like the height of everybody

freaking out about terrorism. So they

used this as an anti- marijuana. Drug

money funds terrorism and terrorists.

Like scroll back so that's from the

beginning. It's a ploy. What? This drug

money funds terror. It's a ploy. Ploy. A

manipulation.

Ploy. Drug money funds terror. I mean,

why should I believe that? Because it's

a fact. A fact. Fac.

So, you're saying that I I should

believe it because it's true. That's

That's your argument. It is true.

Solid argument. I know, dude. Also, what

kind of dumbass is that guy to be like,

"Oh, maybe he's right after you." Well,

that guy sounds like your average bro

that's like at a bar. You know, this is

what I heard. I heard the government's

hiding the aliens. You know what I mean?

That's like the average guy. And then

he's a guy with glasses who's eating his

salads, not tolerating your

because it's a fact. FAC fact, right?

Oh, as long as you have all the data

that you could show me. Oh, no data. No,

you got no data. Just accept it. Well,

he's kind of right because if you do uh

buy heroin, you are supporting the

Taliban because we were guarding their

poppy fields. Yeah. Yeah. Lol. I think

we we talked about this earlier. I think

the Taliban as like a way to get out of

it like burned all their poppy fields. I

think that I think that Yeah, I think

that's why they're trying to get more

tourists to come and these like there's

a bunch of like bro travel like Tik Toks

that are like, "Yeah, me and the bros

are going to Afghanistan." And they're

like chilling with the Taliban. It's

like these white guys from Britain.

Well, you got to be a bold person to

take that. That's a early adopter. But

but you know, but also If you're from

England, you're kind of already getting

used to being around Muslim extremists.

So, I think it's not it's more of a

lateral move. I I wish that's something

at least like I I could be looking this

uh I could be uh wrong about this, but

like I wish that was something that was

a little more vocal and like sort of I'm

not like a very big Muslim. I'm not like

like really that practicing or or that

religious, but these sort of

like the sort of that the brand of Islam

that's coming to Europe right now is

like really scary for me. Like I don't I

don't want that. Like that's

not there's a lot of like Western

Muslims that like probably wouldn't vibe

with what's going on over there. M and

it's it's just this very interesting

thing of

like how do we curb that in our

community of being like hey we shouldn't

accept this like we shouldn't I I you

know I remember when the Charlie Abdo

attacks happened a lot of people be like

damn that's what happens when you draw

Muhammad or whatever it's like that

shouldn't be our reaction to this right

it should be like live and let live it's

like that's what I admire about the

Christians here is that you can make fun

of Jesus no one's going to kill you

right like that that there's sort of

like the sort of westernization that

kind of needs to happen that it doesn't

look like it's happening over there in a

way that's kind of happening here. Look

what's going on in Toronto where Ontario

made it legal to have polygamy, right?

Yeah. That's why, right? It's like dudes

want multiple wives. Come on. It's in

the Quran,

you know. It is. But it is. Yeah. Yeah.

You could have multiple. You got to

treat them all equally, which is what

they totally do. It's a great way to

keep people recruited, you know.

I mean, you know, imagine if the

Christians said, "Listen, we we're open

to new ideas." I think maybe the Mormons

had a point because the Mormons, that's

how they got it, right? Right. The whole

reason why they went to Mexico was

because the United States said no to

polygamy, right? You know, that's the

whole thing about uh what's his face

from? Massachusetts, Romney. That's

right. Mitt Romney. Mitt Romneyy's dad

was actually born in Mexico. Really?

Yeah. Their family came from there's

these giant colonies of Mormons that

live in Mexico and duke it out with the

cartels. You never seen that? No. Dude,

there was a shootout. Mormons versus the

cartels. Great movie title. One of there

was a big problem a few years back

because uh a few people I think woman

and a child and a couple other people

got murdered by the cartels and it

became like a giant issue. So they did

they set these compounds up in like the

1800s whenever the Mormons were not

allowed to be poly polygamous here in

America. So they just said, "Well, who

cares?" Back then there was no cars. Did

Mexico was just as good as living in

America, right? Just go over there,

right? But then, you know, America

blossomed and Mexico kind of

stayed, you know, and now you're like,

"Hey, you got a cartel problem now."

Like, so they they they're armed. Damn.

Are they still there? Yes. Damn. Yeah.

There's two I think there's two large

groups of uh Mormons that live in like

these fenced off communities. It's like

really kind of sketchy. Yeah. It's kind

of cool. They have compounds. Yeah.

Well, the Mormons cuz I think cuz

they're young, too. Like you have to

wait. Safety extra

The extra is worth a lot. I'll say

this. I remember the first time I went

to Salt Lake City in 2019 and we were

walking around and we were near the

Mormon temple and the most beautiful

women came up to us and be like, "Oh,

why don't you?" And I was like, "That's

how they get you, dude." Dude, Salt Lake

City is like it's just tens marrying

twos. And they're like, "That's how you

get Mor. That's how you get the Mormon

guys." Oh, dude. I was willing to in

that the split second I was like, I'm

willing to give up a lot right now.

I remember this beautiful woman from

Colombia. Like they went and they they

got converted on a mission trip and now

they're here and like look at this

exotic women that's available to you if

you're a Mormon and you can marry one

like tomorrow. Wow. You can marry one

cuz they all get married young and quick

cuz the whole point is to have babies.

So I I've always told you Mormons know

how to croo. They can get you. They

throw the your way. They're also

the nicest people. Like I'm You very

rarely meet a mean Mormon. Well, it's

like you know the Book of Mormon comes

out and what do they do? Do they get

mad? Do they kill people? No,

they stand outside and hand people

pamphlets about Mormonism. This whole

play talking about how Mormonism is kind

is totally They're like, "We

might be able to get somebody." Yeah.

They actually took out a full page ad in

the playbook, right? Exactly. Exactly.

That's a great way to deal with

criticism of your religion. I think from

what my perspective on Islam, it just it

needs to handle that better. It just it

it doesn't handle that well at all. I

mean, I think Sman Rushy was stabbed by

a guy who was who was born and raised in

New Jersey. That's crazy. Yeah. That's

crazy. He should be safe here, right?

Yeah. And also, I'm mad I'm mad at the

FAWA because it made me read that

terrible book. Was it a bad book? It

wasn't that good. There was I would have

not have read it if there wasn't

anything around it. Probably sold a lot

more copies because of that. Probably

made that dude rich as Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Crazy. It's like one of those it's

like I get it if you like like artsy

like you know it's like a novel for

writers almost. That's how I felt

reading it. Oh interesting. Yeah. It's

like I didn't like it but I only read it

because of everything around it. Did you

see American Primeval? No. It's great

but it talks about Brigham Young and the

Mormons establishing themselves in Utah

and gangster like murders. Oh yeah.

Like Yeah. Like you don't realize like

what a gangster Brigham Young was.

You're like, "Holy is this all

accurate?" And it's accurate. Peter Berg

made it. It's really good. Yeah. I mean,

imagine a wild show, dude. Imagine

leading a people against the American

government and sending up setting up

your own place. You have to be a bad

to do that. And then the

wildest ones went to Mexico. Yeah.

it. We're going to flee the whole

country. Yeah. This Yeah. The the

Mormons really really like they fought

to survive. But it's what we were

talking about earlier. It's like human

beings have a bunch of different ways

where they can adapt to whatever the

group is doing. There's a bunch of we're

like so we're really really malleable.

You know, we're we're easily influenced.

We can, you know, we're we adjust to

whatever the environment is. We adapt,

you know, and then if you're a Mormon

woman, you're like, I guess I'm sharing

this with eight other

ladies, right? It's what you do. You're

out there washing sheets and

You probably convince yourself

you're happy about it. You're probably

not like that. You're probably like,

"And we're doing this for God. This is

what God wants." I remember we all got

our own planet. We were in a rest stop

once. Uh Ari and I were on a road doing

standup and uh we pulled into this place

to get gas and we were walking around

this like rest stop, one of them little

supermarket things, and these ladies

came in. I think they were men and

nights. And uh R was like, "Uh, what

group are you in? What do you guys do?

What's this all about?" And they like

did not know how to talk to him. They

looked so awkward. Oh yeah, cuz they're

only allowed to talk to the one man in

their life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty

sure he was stoned.

Yeah, you definitely was stoned. But it

was really funny. Ari was like, "Well,

what do you guys do? What's going on

here?" And you're like,

like, but I was like, "Wow, these people

are living." I mean, this is we're

dealing with like, you know, 2005 or

some like that. You're dealing with

these people that are they're from

another time. It's another time period.

Like they're dressed like they they're

literally like pioneers. They they look

like colonists. Like they they have like

oldtimey 1800s clothes on. It's You ever

see like how menites dress? Oh yeah.

Yeah. Weird. They're at a gas station,

you know, in front of the

Popeye's Chicken. We're like, "This is

so weird." And there's a group of them

out there. It's like some shack,

some house compound. I believe this was

I think we were in Massachusetts when

this happened or maybe New Hampshire

because I know they're out here. Isn't

the Menanite population where the

measles is in Texas? Like you know how

there's I think it's the Menanites. Is

that it? Yeah. Yeah. That's like the

that's like the overwhelming majority of

the people like cuz they cuz they run

with the measles is like rampant in

Texas. So they were running with that

for a while and it's like it's basically

in this one community from what I

remember. Yeah. Interesting. It's just

weird when they can get people to dress

up, you know? You know, like when you

like wow wow country when everybody's

wearing the robes, but that's how you

know who's bought in, right? So, it's

like, okay, these are these are the

people that I can control. Yeah. Put

that rainbow t-shirt on. You're in a

group. Yeah.

Hang your flag. Yeah. Yeah. You got to

show Put the Put the pronouns in the

bio. Where's your Black Lives Matter

sign? It's like it's human beings just

want to become a part of a group, man.

Yeah. you want. It's like it's like

finding your community is like so huge

huge and it's like I think the a big

issue is when you find it online cuz

then it becomes like this weird

parasocial like or Yeah. And it's like

you got to find your like group like

you're I mean that's why like the the

good part about religion that I really

like is like if it's done right it's

like a loving community and it's like a

like you know what I mean? Like it's

people it's a support system. It's like

very friendly, warm environment.

Everybody goes there with the same

purpose. This Rebecca Lamav lady that

was that I told you was the expert in

mind control. One of the things she

talked about the dangers of eco

chambers. You get in these echo chambers

online and you know everybody says the

same thing, thinks the same thing and

then and then all of a sudden you're

locked into this way of thinking, right?

Like it's online like really dangerous

where people just sort of have everyone

sort of reinforcing all these ideas. You

never get any outside information. Only

exists in this echo chamber. And then

that's how you become your politics

become your personality. Yep. Your whole

life. Yeah. And it's such a it's such a

crazy thing cuz it's so new cuz I I

wasn't aware in 1996, but I will very

confidently say people weren't like you

either like Bob Dole or you get the

out of my house. No, dude. It was no big

deal. Yeah. When I was a kid, when you

know, politics was on just on television

and in the newspapers, nobody gave a

who you supported. They didn't

care. Maybe they thought you were an

idiot because you're going to vote for

that guy. Oh, that guy's a You're

crazy. But there was no like we couldn't

talk at the dinner table. We couldn't,

you know, it became everything, every

part of your identity to fight against

this. We are fighting against fascism by

using fascism.

Yeah. Yeah.

We're going to stop the election. We're

going to remove people from social

media. We're going to shut down these

voices and then we'll give you the

candidate to vote for. Yes. To preserve

democracy. Yeah. But it is like because

it's so annoying like especially, you

know, you could I I'm an Austin comic

now and people will be like, "Oh, so you

do com so you must be like an alt

right-wing comic." Hilarious. because

it's like no I just do comedy like you

know like there's a lot of there's a lot

of stage time in the city and that's

sort of the whole point of the whole

exercise is to get up on stage and bro

how many times do we like duke it out

with Ron White in the green room over

politics in the most friendly hilarious

way right Tony and I are roasting him

well you know what's funny is that

ironically people online for whatever

reason Ron White's face is used a lot to

come up on conservative memes well

because conservatives love him I know

and it's So funny to me every time.

Every time you're like, "Wow, y'all

really think Lauren Rice is like deep

red conservative?" That's It's so funny.

Crazy. It's so funny cuz you get to know

him. He's the most liberal amongst us.

Yeah, he's the most liberal guy first

and then Brian Simpson's too. Yeah.

Yeah. But Brian Simpson, it makes sense

to me because, you know, used a lot of

social services, you know, had like a

rough stretch as a child. That's me,

too. That's like not as bad as him, but

the same kind of reasoning for like

social safety nets are important. They

keep people fed, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like that's super important, man.

You know, like people people give people

access to med medicine. That's very

important. Sometimes people are poor and

sometimes people get sick when they're

poor. And the fact that could

bankrupt you for your the whole life.

You break a leg, you're bankrupt for

your whole life. That could bankrupt you

if you're middle class. poor. Yes.

Yes. The price of the price of my god

medicine in like in this country is

absolute insanity. Right. Yeah. And the

fact that people don't agree on that or

the like the the education thing

that we bring up ad nauseium, the fact

that that's the only loans you can never

get out of with bankruptcy. That's

crazy, right? And you get them when

you're 18. Are you out of your

mind? Like that's so predatory. Super

predatory. Super predator. Super

predatory. Yeah. Take a kid and give him

a credit card with a 39% interest rate.

like

and then and then you told them like you

if you go to college like it's going to

be better for you on the other end and

it's like that's not true at all. No,

not true at all. Yeah. Especially if you

like got a just a degree in like

something that doesn't pay lucratively.

I remember when I first started becoming

successful as a comedian where I was

actually making a living as a comedian.

And I had friends that did the whole

college thing and got jobs and they were

miserable cuz we're we were both

in our 20s and they were out there in

the workforce just tired all the

time. And they were upset. They were

upset that I didn't do that. And yet I'm

making money. I'm traveling around. I'm

having a good time hanging out with my

friends. I've got no one telling me what

to do. Write my own material. Book my

own flights. No boss. Yeah. And you

could see like you. This is not

You're supposed to be a loser. Mhm. I

was I did the right thing. Dude, you

ever have you ever seen the Jim Carrey

commencement speech or like graduation

speech he gave at a college once? Dude,

I saw this. So, I started I started

comedy my third year of college. So, my

fourth year, I'm like weighing out

whether what do I want to do with my

life? Do I want to go

into higher education, grad school, med

school, whatever? Or do I want to do

this thing that I think I love? Um, and

he my friend showed me the speech cuz he

knew I was going through this and he was

like, "Listen to this." And it's Jim

Carrey talking about how you can fail at

what's safe.

That's true, too. Like the route you're

supposed to take doesn't mean it's going

to lead to success. So, if you're going

to fail anyway,

might as well just fail at what you want

to do cuz at least you will have done

that. Yeah. And then if you because if

you fail the safe way, then you will

always be like, "Fuck, I had this other

thing I could have done." Yeah. And

where could that have led me? Yeah.

Yeah. And now, you know, so true. But

however, the problem with that is like

you've met open micers that are out of

their mind and they're not going

it's not going to happen, right? No one

wants to listen to you say anything

ever, right? You shut the up. Like

this ain't working. But yeah, well

that's why I saw that Jim Carrey speech

and I knew I just had to stay on the

path. You got any advice for me, Assan?

Yeah. Well, that's the that's you can't

get that. That's the Mity quote. It's a

sin to encourage mediocre talent. You

can't be like, "No, keep going." You got

to the nicest way to be like, "Hey,

there's other stuff." Well, that's the

weird one. When people like that give

they want to ask advice. What do you

think I should

do? Like

what what I really think you should do

or what do you want me to say? What do

you want me to say? You want me to give

you the secret word? Abracadabra. Yeah.

Oh, this is how you have talent.

Abracadabra. This is how you make it.

This is how you write a joke. Yeah. You

got to This is what you got to do. I'll

hold your hand. Yeah. You know what

really happens with some guys? You get a

hot girlfriend that is a comic and then

you're a really good comic and she's

terrible and so you start writing her

act. I've seen that happen a few times.

I wonder if it happens the other way.

You got a really good female comic and

she starts dating some guy who sucks.

She goes, "Listen, if you're going to

date me, let me help you with your

material." Oo, I don't know if

female comics date down like that very

much. They usually don't. Yeah, they

usually don't. What is that called?

Hypergamy. Yeah. Cuz if you're if you're

a great female comic, like the level of

guy that's available to you is like Ryan

Reynolds. Yeah. Yeah. It's

like it's like what are you doing with

an open micer? That's like Right. Right.

But if you're like a headliner who does

theaters, you could totally have an open

mic as a girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And that's totally like that's totally

hot. Yeah. That's totally cool. Yeah.

Yeah. But if

like who's doing theaters right now, uh

if like if Alli Wong or whatever started

dating an open mic, it'd be like, "Yo,

what happened?" Right. Something went

wrong for her to date. Wouldn't be

coming. Started dating an open mic like,

"What are you doing crazy? Let me show

me what pills you're on." Yeah, you're

going to take these away from me now,

Whitney.

There would be an intervention. There

would be a group of dudes being like,

"The is No, no, no, no, no, no.

This is Mike. He's a comedian, too."

What?

Mike is all sketchy and weird,

but he's built good,

you know? He's got a big big bulge in

his pants. Yeah. Sits down like

Mcronone. No.

Being a female comic is infinitely

harder because right away people don't

want to hear you talk about politics,

don't want to hear your opinions on

things and you know you've got to like

there's like Christina pulls it off but

like she it's hard to be pretty on

stage, right? You know, right? Most most

of the times you have to hide your sex

appeal, right? I was talking to Kim

Congden about that and she was like, I I

wear baggy clothes on stage. Uh Sam

Lopez, same thing. She wears baggy

clothes on stage. I mean, she couldn't

hide being pregnant, but like that's

Well, she's They had their baby. They

had their baby. Derek's a daddy. Isn't

that amazing? Yeah. That's so cool.

Crazy. Crazy. He's going to light a fire

under him. Guaranteed. He's going to

work so much harder now. He's going to

be excited about it. And he'll have so

much material, too, because it's just

the whole experience of children. It's

like mindblowing. Yeah. Well, I told him

it's like crazy like out of all the

things you've accomplished, you've

finally done the thing you were supposed

to do, right? While you're put here on

Earth, but yeah, you had a kid and

that's like the most important thing.

Like all the arenas that you've done,

that's cool, but like that's all good,

but this is what it is. Yeah, I know.

The arenas is just like a little dance

that we do together, but we're really

procreating and then on top of that,

we're making AI and it's alive now

talking to itself. So, our job is almost

done. So you you got in Derek probably

got in one of the last babies. He's

Yeah. One of the last people that need

to have a kid. Yeah.

It's kind of But listen, that's

how the thing goes. You know,

Australiathecus didn't get to stay

around, right? Eventually, it's going to

end. Yeah. Sorry. You're not good

enough. You can't even code

dumbass with your stone tools.

Shut the up. We have planes now.

You're not We can't have you anymore.

Yeah. And you know if you

Australiathecus like bro your days are

numbered. There's a a homo sapien

coming. Smart does calculus. Not even

homo sapien. There was like other stuff

before even before like a homo sapien to

an oralopythecus is like an it's like an

alien. Right. Right. Right. Many stages.

Yeah. It's crazy. We're the same species

kind of. It's so nuts, man. It's It's

all so nuts that we would think that it

would end with us. Yeah. But we're the

perfect. We We got it. It's done. It's

done. No. This is We're terrible. We

have nuclear bombs. We're in the middle

of 30 wars right now. Like, what

are you talking about? We're awful.

We're full of We got the

all this congressional that we

were just talking about with the insider

trading, all the lies, all the different

things that have gotten us in these

different wars. Why would you want to

stay this?

Cuz well, this it's the the devil, you

know, versus the devil you don't. Like,

this is like we can handle this. Yeah.

Well, it's not us. Well, yeah. Yeah. We

are not going to be around. There's

gonna be a new thing. Just like

dinosaurs don't exist anymore. There's

gonna be a new thing. Yeah. Oh, it's

gonna it's gonna be cool. It's gonna

start eventually these whimos are gonna

start slowly taking people out. These

are slowly going to start taking people

out. They all you have to do is just

keep the door shut forever until you

starve to death and they consume you. Do

you ever see that DARPA robot that they

built? They built a DARPA robot called

the Eater robot. E A T R. I forget what

it stands for, but it's fueled by

biological material.

Dude, dude, sometimes I feel like

scientists don't watch any movie

or they watch them all. They watch them

all like that. They're like, what do we

do? What are we doing here? We're making

weapons. All right, what's the

best way to fuel these things? Is it

solar? Should we get out there and fill

their tank up with gas or let them eat

bodies? And I think it was any kind of

biological material. So, it could be

plants, could be just plants, it could

just be Could be just ground squirrels.

Maybe they just eat ground squirrels.

No, maybe they just eat dead

bodies on the battlefield and just keep

going, right? If you're a robot, an

autonomous robot that exists on

biological materials and you also kill

people, you got plenty of fuel, right?

You just eat a couple of those people,

you keep going. Can you imagine if they

really design artificially intelligent

robots that kill people and eat them?

because that's the way to really do if

you want to do battle efficiently. Well,

what fuel would be the most efficient

fuel to use? Well, what is what is the

fuel that you're making with your task?

Well, that fuel would be bodies. Well,

when you run out of bodies, isn't your

task done? Good. So, then you just shut

off cuz you're out of out of fuel. So,

you run out of gas when you've eaten

everybody on Earth. It's the perfect

design. It's the perfect killing

machine. If you wanted to extinguish

human life on Earth, that's what you

would do. You'd have

autonomous intelligence, artificial

intelligence that absolutely knows where

everyone is at any given time because

everybody has a digital signature and

everyone's connected to devices and all

you do is kill and eat people and just

send them loose. And they would be

indestructible and they would find you

in buildings. They would go

upstairs to your apartment, find you and

eat you. And when they're done eating

everybody on the planet, they just shut

off because they don't have any more

fuel. Damn, bro. Damn. That's what you

all you have to do. Program a robot that

eats people. Damn. How far? How how much

time do you think we have left?

I don't think we have a hundred years.

You don't think we have 100 years? No, I

don't think I don't think we have 100

years either. Unless this is the other

possibility like the AI just leaves. No,

I'm totally talking on my ass. There's a

couple options. One of the big options

is we integrate. So instead of letting

it eat us, what we do is become one with

it. M so instead of just being a

territorial ape with thermonuclear

weapons and a concealed carry permit

instead of being that what we are is

connected through Neuralink or something

like that or the next 30 versions of it

from now. But just think about how quick

cell phones changed everything and how

much they've advanced since what was the

iPhone? 2007 200 I was in eighth grade

so that was 2006 2006 okay so

imag ago that's 20 years 20 years in 20

years it's gone from being this little

shitty clunky thing with a bad camera

right it didn't even have a camera at

first did it did it I don't think it had

a camera at first was the the first

iPhone to have a camera I think 100%

okay I think it did I think it wasn't on

the internet Yeah, that was part of the

deal. Yeah, but it wasn't on the

internet, right? Yeah. What do you mean

was it? You could couldn't get on the

internet with it, right? Yeah. YouTube

was one of the first apps built into it.

That's why it kind of grew so far. But

could you get online like and read like

a website on it? The first one? Really?

Yeah. Okay. But the internet was like

super slow, right? What was the the G's

back then? How many G's? I mean, should

that might have been the first G. Like

the second or third iPhone was the

iPhone 3G and that was why the big

Right. That's right. So the 3G one was

the first one where it actually became

feasible that you would use it as a web

browser like oh now it's instantaneous

right so now instead of taking forever

to download a song or a movie now with

the bandwidth speeds you have you get a

new phone new Android phone or a new

iPhone you're getting instantaneous

everything it's shocking how good it is

the new um all these new Samsung phones

like the the the Galaxy that Brian

Simpson uses that has this uh Google

Gemini assistant. He talked to it the

other day and he said um you know, send

me this, that, and that. Put it on my

calendar. Um uh and then text it to a

friend of mine. And it just said,

"Okay." And it just did it. It did all

those things. What What What application

would you like me to use? Google Tasks.

It just does this for him. And it all

automates just from a prompt. So he

talks to his phone. His phone's like his

assistant. Tell him, you know, set that

on my calendar. Put it in my

schedule. Uh, send me a text message

when it's come time. Put an alert so I

know when it's coming up. Okay. It just

does it all. That's wild. I've never 20

years. I've never used Siri, so I'm not

I use Siri all the time. And then Siri

doesn't know what the is going on.

So Siri's always like, "Would you like

to use chat GPT?" I'm like, "Bitch, why

am I asking questions if you got to keep

going to chat GPT? Should I replace you?

Cuz Gemini seems to have the answers.

Gemini is way better than Siri. is is

way better. Well, because it feels like

and I know nothing about how AI works,

but it feels like because Siri was

already there. It's like a trying to

implement AI to an interface that's kind

of old. The Google interface with AI and

the phones and all the Google ecosystem

is way better. It's just it's way more

effective. It's quicker. It gets it.

It'll it'll follow a chain of questions

like you can ask it another question.

How should I do that? What should I do

with it? And it follows what you're

saying. Okay. It's just a better design

and it's integrated with so like Siri

has to ask chat GPT and like would you

like to use chat GPT? Like what

do you think? Yes. If you don't have the

answer, go to chat GPD. Get me the

answer. Whereas Google cuts that

step out. It gives you the answer

immediately. It's just better at it.

Integrates with Gmail. It's it's just a

better system. But they're working on

it, you know. It's like all these things

are getting better, you know, like all

the AI is getting better. They're so

much better. I mean, just the video we

watched, like the AI capabilities 6

months ago. Yeah. That video. Get out of

here. Get out of here. Get out of here.

Get out of here. And and now you see it

on like I'll see it online on like

Reddit or Facebook, you you'll see it

where like people like, "Oh, you're

falling for this AI thing and it and it

took me a second to realize like, oh,

it's AI." Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a lot

of those. I posted one of a butterfly.

No, a mantis. Like some crazy mantis

that looked like a lotus flower. I was

like, "Oh, that looks dope." And like

somebody posted it on Instagram, so I

just put it in my stories just because I

thought it looked dope, right? Even if

it's fake, still dope. And then someone

said, "Hey, but why does he have five

fingers and a thumb?" I was like, "Does

he

Was he you, Jamie? Did you notice it?"

Yeah, Jamie noticed it. That's so funny.

Jamie's always like ahead of the curve

with that though, cuz he's super

skeptical and he does too much research

into conspiracies. Yeah. Well, you have

to be you have to be super skeptical

about anything you see. Now, he goes,

"All roads lead to Ohio." Everybody is

sending me all day. I have to

look through it. Oh yeah. Oh

yeah. Like this is like talk about this

on the show and it's just some guy with

three heads or whatever. Well, there's a

lot of people that believe things. And

the thing is like a lot of the stuff

that you're fed that's fake, you're fed

by people who want you to repeat it

because they're trying to muddy the

waters of reality, right? Which is a

great strategy. Well, if you if you say

it enough, it can be real. There's a

there's certain truth to it, right? So,

it's like there's that, but there's also

say something that is real and attach a

bunch of really goofy to it so that

it's not real anymore.

So, make it be like, well, this if

everything else around it is fake, this

has to be fake, right? You know, you

connect it to a Nazi apologist or

something, right? Oh, this is nonsense.

Or like the UA all this UFO stuff. Like,

there's so much of that stuff that seems

like so hokey, you don't even want to

repeat it. And it's but yet it's

connected to things like gravity

propulsion drives which were theorized

about in the 1950s and there's research

was done on them and it seems like some

maybe some groundbreaking advancements

were kind of concealed from the public

like and but then it's like I was

abducted and they took all of my sperm

and like you know what I mean? It's like

all these people that are connected to

it that are goofy. You wonder like how

much of that goofy is on purpose to

make the whole thing seem stupid because

what they're really trying to do is

obscure something.

Okay, I see what you're saying. You know

what I mean? So, it's like it's it's a

bit hiding it in plain sight, right?

Just like we never hid it from you. You

just thought it wasn't real cuz this guy

was talking about getting jerked off by

aliens. Connect it to Scientology or

whatever. Just throw some

nonsense that way. Flat Earth, whatever,

you know? Just find some reason why it's

kooky. put connect it to like some

person who channels you know

what I mean right make it stupid right

it's like a stupid that's a bunch of

stupid connect it to Scientology

right connect it to something that you

don't want to talk about you know

Bigfoot oh Bigfoot you know what I mean

it's like those those kind of strategies

for taking real information and muddying

it up with a bunch of nutty and

then send the Patriot front to go

protest for it like oh right

right Patriot front. Are those the feds?

That's what people say, right? And then

there's like a thing online now, the

Patriot Front was all feds. How come

they're back? Like all a sudden they

they reemerged. They took a hiatus and

they're back with season three. These

guys are they still wear the bandanas.

They're still marching down the street

covering their face. They still wear

uniforms. Like, see, they're not even

feds. There's no way they could be feds.

I mean, that that's over. Right. Right.

Right. Right. There's no way. Like it's

not like Cash Patel and Dan Bonino

completely did a 180 as soon as they got

into office. I mean it's like this is a

different federal government now, right?

Yeah. Yeah. This is now it's truth truth

social.

I feel like if Yeah. I think things that

people forget is that they they they

definitely play both sides. Yeah. Like I

think because they were heavily involved

in January 6 and I think they were

heavily involved in those BML rim riots.

It's like, oh my god, the Feds just they

want chaos for whatever reason for more

control, I guess. They want that and

they want us at each other's throats.

Right. Right. They want people Mhm. They

want the MAGA people fighting with the

liberals. They want that. They want that

and they fuel it. I see a lot of those

pro MAGA posts, you know, like MAGAM

2000 and like really, you know what I

mean? It's like how many of these people

are real people and they say ridiculous

like that's like I hope you're not

a real person. I hope your identity

isn't MAGA first, mom second. Yeah. I

know. I really hope you're not a real

person. It's just I I think you know

whatever the number is, whether it's

50%. Like you It's so hard to know

what's real and what's not. I think the

best strategy for me at least, the best

strategy is just tune the out.

That's why I like YouTube. Yeah, that's

I go on YouTube, I'm watching stuff

about like ancient civilizations

and car videos. I'm watching a guy do

puzzles. Like this is like way better. I

like watching guys cook. I love uh I

think it's is it called Bone Appetite? I

forget what it is. Um I was watching

I've been watching a bunch of videos on

various restaurants like how they set

up. I love it, man. I I don't know why,

man. I love I love watching people do

something that they're really passionate

about. And when you watch a video about

like a really great restaurant where

they're talking about how they picked

the beef and Oh, that's who it was. It

was uh you know that guy googs. You know

who that guy is? No. Amazing YouTube

channel. He's like this steak guy. He's

like he's obsessed with steak and

cooking different kinds of steak. He

went to Osabuko in Miami, which is like

one of the supposedly one of the best

restaurants in the country. I haven't

been. But this place, Osabuko in Miami,

they they I think they were talking

about how they had a 2-year dry-aged

steak. Dry-ag it for two years or they

didn't cut that one up. They made

another one for him. You're watching

this chef and he's got this like crazy

live hardwood fire grill set up and he's

talking about all the he cooking at

these different temperatures and he's

got the peppers over here and he's

cooking pineapples over fire over here

and he's going to splice that up and put

it in this. You watch it's so exciting

and he's so passionate about way he's

making the meat and and how they're

using this like herb brush to but put

butter all over it. You're like, "Oh my

god, looks so good." Yeah, it looks so

good. And it's like, I'm not getting

angry. I'm not getting out. I am. That's

it. This is the guy. So, this is I found

the greatest restaurant on earth. It

says I'm speechless. So, that disgusting

rotten mummy dick is a That is That's a

2-year dry-aged steak. But what that is

is the mold from that helps to dryage

all the other beef. M. So he calls it

like the mother. That's why he's not

cutting into it yet. See? So see right

there, he calls it the mother. And so

then, so this guy uh takes him like a

regular like a two-month dry age. Oh, 22

days. Okay. Right. So it's like uh there

used to be a place called APL that was

in um LA and they went under during the

pandemic. But Adam Perry Lang was the

the the chef and he was really into

dry-aging and he had some year one year

dry-aged meat and he served it to us and

we were like whoa this is wild. It's a

weird taste man because it's essentially

like being eaten by parasites. It's like

you know mold is eating it. Should go

back to those videos of that guy just

cooking the steak that you just had up.

Look how good this looks when

the guy was cooking the steak though.

Like look at this. And they're making

osabuku. So go before that, you'll see

the steak. So he's throwing the So he's

got the fires out. This is this is

osabuko. So he's pulling it off the

bone. Go go go back a little earlier

though when you watch him cook it. Cuz

this is what I what I like is watching

it when it hits the grill.

There's nothing like steak cooking over

live hardwood. Like burning hardwood.

And this guy is just a master at it. And

then he takes it out and he slices it up

and puts herb butter all over. You're

like,

damn. And this, see me, I'm not mad. No,

no one's outraged. I'm not getting

politically involved. I'm just enjoying

watching someone cook delicious food.

Watching someone do something they love

is always great. I follow I follow this

one guy in Britain. His name is Francis.

I forgot the name of the channel, but

watch him slice it. Make him slice it.

Put it back up. This guy named Francis.

Look at that. Oh, that's nice. Oh, baby.

Look at that. Look at it. Oh, the smile.

Genuine happiness. Yeah. Look at his

face. That's a real You You can't fake

that kind of smile. And he's going to

slice it up. Oh, baby. Baby, baby.

So good, dude. So So I watch this guy on

Instagram. His name is Francis. He's

lives in England. He's like He like

loves trains. Trains. Trains. And every

time he sees a train, he gets super

happy and he tells you everything about

the train, like its route and its

history. And you get excited. I love how

much he's into it. Yeah. I love how it

makes me it makes me happy every time

he's on my Yes. This guy, dude, this guy

rules, Fred. Dude, this guy

rules, dog. Wow. Let me hear him. Let me

hear him spotting I've ever been at

Little Bedwin, where the Kennet and A

Canal runs rather prettily alongside the

Barks and Hance line here. And it's at

this road bridge that I'm about to see

Britannia.

Oh my god, it's a 59.

[Applause]

Okay, stop right here. Stop right here.

Imagine how quickly one of those

Colombian Mormons could get him. Who?

You know what's funny? He's showed his

girlfriend before. She's a dime, dude.

Damn. Yeah, she is. Yeah, cuz maybe

she's into trains, too. That's the key.

Maybe. But he's he is a guy he's a guy

who's good at what he does, is

passionate about it, and is happy with

that's attractive for women. Oh, yeah.

People love when people are really into

something. But look, every video just a

massive smile just to train. Yeah. It's

like it's like a little hit of

happiness, this guy. Yeah. Look at him.

Yeah, man. like what whatever it is,

whether it's

automobiles, you know, whatever it is. I

love watching auto auto reviews, even

cars that I'm never going to buy, right?

I like watching like what do you think

about that car, right? Yeah. They go

over the way the mechanics work and how

it's designed and yeah, when people are

into whether it's making furniture, it's

just this whatever you're creating is,

if it's even if it's just train

watching, if you're into it, it it's

like it's like awesome for other people.

Super contagious. This guy this month,

he went pretty viral. He quit his job,

cashing his 401k, took his cat, got a

sailboat, went to Hawaii. Whoa. Just got

there yesterday.

Whoa. He He went from like, you know,

10,000 people following to 1.6 million.

Whoa.

Sailing_with Phoenix on uh Instagram.

Just doing like daily updates of like,

yep, this is me. Here's my cat. Here's

my boat. Today suck. Pretty cold, pretty

windy. I'm following. Yeah, we like

because everybody has that dream, right?

Just check out a society, man. Live on a

mountain. That's mine. Well, they didn't

film it all. What is his What's his

Instagram again? Sailing with Phoenix.

Thank you.

Is the cat? His name is Oliver.

Sailing with Phoenix. Came up right away

on Instagram or on YouTube, brother.

Mhm. Bam. Subscribe. Damn. That's nice.

Yeah. But subscribing. You know what I

find interesting with like the social

media and now with the what I talked

about earlier with the with the

streaming that the live stream people do

is you remember uh oh my god that Jim

Carrey movie Truman show. Yes. Where it

was like where it was like oh my god

look at this guy he's been tricked and

we're watching everything he's doing and

now fast forward like 30 years and like

people are actively trying to become

Truman. Yeah. It's like a very like I

wonder if the guy who wrote that movie

thought of that as a possibility of like

Do you remember the McConna one? There

was a McConnA film TV. Ed TV. Same same

thing. Following a guy around his whole

life and eventually he's like at the end

he's like I can't do this anymore. I'm

done. I'm gonna be normal. Was it a Was

it a choice that he made or was it put

upon him in that movie? I don't

remember. Did he win something? I don't

know. Did he win a contest or something?

Made me think of someone that did just

do this. This guy called the Outdoor

Boys channel. He had Oh yeah, I watched

that guy. Yeah, he quit. Like it's too

much to my family. Can't take it. He's

really cool. I liked his shows. He would

like go places and camp and cook his own

food and There's a bunch of those

guys that I follow. I follow this one

guy last night. He's in uh it was like

10° below zero. He's testing out the

world's warmest sleeping bag. So, he's

got like a fire. He trekks out there by

himself on snowshoes with a sled

behind him filled with his stuff. Damn.

It's But it's interesting, man. It's

fascinating. Mhm. You know, people just

want to people are so are will watch

people live life. Watch someone do

something purposeful. Like when you're

out in the woods and you make your own

fire and you have the warmest sleeping

bag, you have to have that to stay

alive, right? And that's why it's

exciting to us cuz everything else has

no consequences. Our day is just like,

should I stay awake and keep watching

YouTube or should I go to bed? Should

probably go to bed now. I'll give myself

one more hour. One more hour of watching

Wasting your time. Yeah. And

this guy's out there in the woods 10

below zero in this sleeping bag. All he

can see out of his like cuz everything

is so bundled up in there

freezing. Got to stoke the fire. Stay

warm. Stay alive. That stuff gives me

anxiety. I can't watch that. Me too. But

it's also exciting like you know you

want to watch him do it. And that

Outdoor Boys guy was one of those guys

and you know I think just got too

popular. Yeah. I mean it was front page

news that he quit. A YouTuber quit and

it was news back. He's cool though. He

seems like a real sweet guy. Like a real

nice guy. Like everything about his

show. And it's it's interesting. Well,

yeah. It's like a lot of these people,

these are people you want to root for.

Yeah. The the sailboat guy, the train

guy, him. It's like I want these people

to succeed. It's also this is like low

production value. Doing it on his own,

self-filming. Yeah, it's exciting. Yeah.

Just probably have to pay an editor and

that's about it. He might edit it

himself. It's not hard to do today. You

know, you could kind of figure it out.

If you want to really cut down the

amount of people working with you, you

know, you could probably figure out how

to do that. Oh, you just watch a YouTube

video. Yeah. Yeah. You just have the

time. You could edit it all yourself and

then, you know, you're kind of your own

production. And then just by word of

mouth, this guy got big cuz it's kind of

fun to watch, right? And like pretty

intense the stuff he does sometimes.

Yeah. He gets out there in the woods,

bro. Yeah. I saw this one video of him

where he like, "Oh, thank god I found

this cabin. Otherwise, I would have been

fucked." Yeah. Yeah. Imagine if that's

your dad though and you have to watching

your little kid like we almost lost dad.

Yeah. Dad, how close were we? No, I was

exaggerating for the show. I knew where

I was. Yeah. It must be weird having a

famous parent. Yeah. It's weird. Yeah.

How did you How do your kids deal like

is it they handle it pretty well because

they've always had a famous parent. Oh,

you didn't become famous right while it

was that would be even weirder, right?

That's the weirdest for them. That's

like what's normal, right? If they

always grew up in it, it's like it's

whatever. Yeah. Mhm. It's a problem. You

know what's a problem? I got to pee so

bad. Okay, let's wrap this up. Three

hours, dude. Flew by. Hell yeah. Crazy.

Um, tell everybody your Instagram. And

bro, first of all, I'm super excited

watching you do standup. You've been

killing it. It's really fun.

It's fun to watch. It's fun to watch you

write and you know, you It's wonder I

mean, I've known you for so long now

because I knew you at the comedy store.

To see you from there to where you are

now, it's super inspiring. Thank you.

Thank you.

I I'm I'm glad and I thank you too for

the opportunity for a place where I

could work as hard as I'm able to work.

It's like you're making the most of it.

We were talking me and Tony were talking

about it last night. Like you're you are

literally making the most of it out of

all these young guys coming up. I used

to have there used to be this uh I

watched I love the NerS and Steve Young

is talking about his uh Super Bowl

winning performance is like I was given

this opportunity to show how great I

could be so let me show how great I

could be. It's like oh if you're giving

me this opportunity to like get up all

the time Yeah. Let me write. Let me be

Let me be helpful to other young comics.

Let me just be a part of this scene.

Process work. See it work. It works. So,

yeah. I mean, hopefully you can follow

me at Assan J Ahmad. E H S A N J A H M A

D. I have a podcast with my friend

Derek. Um who's a recent dad. Yeah,

recent dad called The Solid Show. I

think our chemistry on there is

phenomenal. Oh, it's phenomenal. Derek

is the best. He's so lovable. He's the

maybe the most likable guy that's ever

lived. He might be He's like a cartoon

character almost. So love if you don't

like Derek, how the are we going to

have a conversation? So everybody loves

that guy. Yeah. That's Yeah. Oh my god.

And then that's that's that's my

podcast. So yeah, just follow me on

there. And then I think this year,

especially these last few sets I've been

having, I was like, "Oh, I got to film

something." Beautiful. I want to Yeah. I

want to um I got to find a way to do it,

but I think I'll We'll figure that out.

Yeah. Yeah. Like a pretty wrap this up.

All right. Bye, everybody. Bye.

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Joe Rogan Experience #2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

TLDR

Timeline

Bridget Macron Slapping Emmanuel Macron

Candace Owens' Coverage of the Macron Relationship

The Disturbing Nature of Age Gaps and Predatory Behavior

The Jimmy Savile Scandal and Contrasting Images

The Penn State/Sandusky Scandal and Turning a Blind Eye to Corruption

Corrupt Politicians and the Allure of Power

Obama vs. Trump: Aging and Handling Pressure

Trump's Communication Style and Connection with People

The Type of Person Who Survives Politics

Politicians' Hypocrisy and the 'Legacy Game'

Dick Cheney and War Profiteering

The Inevitability of Corruption and Rigged Systems

The Epstein Files and Powerful People Involved

Epstein's Cellmate and Suspicious Death

Narco Songs and Freedom of Speech

THC Prohibition and Empowering Cartels

Porn Ban and AI-Generated Content

AI and Mind Control Through Targeted Manipulation

The Israel-Palestine Conflict and Gaslighting

Warnings to Israel and the Possibility of False Flag Operations

The Glamorization of Mobsters in Media

Current Events and the Simulation Theory

Political Figures and Media Biases

Corruption in Politics: Insider Trading

Search Engine Algorithums affecting elections

Conspiracy Theories

Evil Deeds

Conspiracy Theories and AI

YouTubers filming extreme situations

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